This comes up every once in awhile , my belief is that the LF are faithful servants that actually die by the world governments taking them prisoner and having them executed because they want control of religion or perhaps the refusal to obey man over Gods commandments , the bible does say for the bearing witness to jesus . Jesus said many are called yet few are chosen , so there is a test period of to which they must in the end die for their GOD . It's a death pact .
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How Many Anointed Have There Been?
by konceptual99 inhas there ever been any research done to indicate how many individuals have claimed to be anointed since 33 c.e.?.
basically, all the congregation from 33ce to (say) around 90ce was, then it dropped down to indiividuals until growth from 1870ish.. the whole congregation of that period from late 19thc until 1935 was anointed and since then it has been dipping then growing.. there must be an allowance for those that would not have been anointed through that period.. have any estimates been done?
is the pool of individuals in the first centuary and the modern day history so big as to completely blow the number of 144000 out of the window?.
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JULY 15TH STUDY EDITION :"If ever that evil slave..." page 24
by raymond frantz inbox on page 24 of the july 15th titled :"if ever the evil slave....".
jesus has placed the weightiest of responsibilities on the faithful and discreet slave-namely,overseeing the domestics and giving out spiritual food atthe proper time.
jesus knew that those with greater responsibility have greater accountability.
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I thought they were backing off the FDS and saying they don't show up until the tribulation and they changed the tribulaiton dogma , anyway the only one qualified to be the evil slave would be the one who claimed to be the FDS to begin with , which of course is the WTBTS . ANyway getting more and more confused over what direction they are going here .
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 03-31-2013 WT Study (ELDERS FELLOW WORKERS)
by blondie infellow workers.
we are fellow workers.
(a) what did paul mean when he wrote: by your faith .
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Gag alert needed here again. Elders in my cong. were more likely to call you domonically posessed than anything else . Complete freak show of incompetence.
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If Someone Goes To The Memorial It's A Huge Deal! Do You Know Why???
by minimus ini believe that if a non regular meeting attender shows up for at least the memorial "celebration", it's a sign, that possibly, the person is saveable.
not all hope is lost for them.. i heard that last year, the rumour was that i was going to show up and sit with my mother....(of course, that never happened).. so, if you attended or if your family member or wayward friend showed up, they might have a chance for everlasting (earthly) life, after all!.
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the R&F are now the domestics so the requirement is more important ... I went just to see if there were any changes in the way they present the emblems or any new dogma about it .. The elder gave the sermon was an ," anointed", he made sure everyone watched as he did the partaking by sitting there and waving his had for the attendant to give him his platter of motza sticks ... At least I saw what was going on . I think it loses it's symbolism if not a loaf of unleaven bread . Any way I leave just after that to beat the traffic so I don't have answer the questions ,of do you want a study again ? I thought the full moon was on wednesday night anyway ....
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North Korea - U.S - War ?
by *lost* inthings look to be hotting up here.
scary.. what are the chances of it all kicking off ?.
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I agree it's probably just scare tactics in an attempt to get aid since they don't have any food . Black mail seems to be their main MO .
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There are really TWO Watchtower Societies
by Terry inwith cedars release of leaked watchtower new light "adjusting" understanding of "who" the faithful and discreet slave is.....i am struck by something which similarly struck me back in 1967.in 1967 i had just been imprisoned.
being a male jehovah's witness during the viet nam war meant certain "issues" arose affecting a decision to respond to the military draft.i have told the story before.
but, i'd like go at it from another angle in view of the above mentioned new light about the fds fora different reason.it was first in 1967 i began to discover that there are two watchtower societies.let me explain why i say this and for what reasons.first of all, anybody standing in a kingdom hall or sitting in a seat at a vast international assembly saw people they would identify as all on the same page.
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All I can say is that in revelation all those that obey the command of , Thou Shalt not kill, are sent to prison , not to alternative service .. I never did agree with alternative service myself , so your complaint is another flip flop but in the end you got out of fighting a stinking war that nobody wanted accept defense contractors ..... YAY you , gulf of tonkin was a false flag ....
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There are really TWO Watchtower Societies
by Terry inwith cedars release of leaked watchtower new light "adjusting" understanding of "who" the faithful and discreet slave is.....i am struck by something which similarly struck me back in 1967.in 1967 i had just been imprisoned.
being a male jehovah's witness during the viet nam war meant certain "issues" arose affecting a decision to respond to the military draft.i have told the story before.
but, i'd like go at it from another angle in view of the above mentioned new light about the fds fora different reason.it was first in 1967 i began to discover that there are two watchtower societies.let me explain why i say this and for what reasons.first of all, anybody standing in a kingdom hall or sitting in a seat at a vast international assembly saw people they would identify as all on the same page.
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interesting. I would be happy that they supported non compliance during viet nam tho . that would be the silver lining for me since viet nam was nothing but a huge failure for the military but made the banking cartels extremely wealthy.
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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release
by cedars inhttp://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.
if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.
it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.
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yep londo , here come that great printing press to the rescue once again just like jehovahs great chariot another light speed change of direction , looks like reverse to me since the resistance has done a good job of exposing them , they now have to disclaim and say a new arrangement must take over ... can't boast about authority now, guess what ? we demoted ourselves ...... We never got the apointment even tho we said the GT started in 1914 CE . Rutherford was not only drunk on booze he was on power ....
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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release
by cedars inhttp://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.
if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.
it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.
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that was an interesting article , now all they have to admit is that they play the role of the evill slave if not by lying by then by attacking others who probably tried to inform them in the past , I think they even demanded more out of it's follwers because their failed prophesies were about to be exposed . Sick and tired of them trying to call everyone that gets a public forum such as this site being called the evil slave , hello!!! noone here ever said they were any kind of slave .They should apologize to all those they stepped on for questioning .
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My thoughts and observations re: the Memorial
by 144001 inwhile sitting through my annual visit to a kingdom hall tonight, i had the following thoughts/observations:.
1. the speaker appealed to the kids: "how many here are 15 years of age or younger?
" he then went on to tell us how exciting it would be to "lie down" with lions that eat straw instead of flesh, and further discussed jw kids napping with leopards, bears, and cattle.
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really strange that I went , there was an, " anointed ", giving the sermon, familiar with him , studied with him , he's from etheopia . I don't think anyone repatrioted to the US is qualified to be one anyway, since they do have to swear obedience and recognize the US government as their ruling authority to come here . It was the usual magic trick of eating some motza and sipping some wine ,of which I left during just to beat the traffic jam on the way out . They do cherry pick scripture .Nothing personal but believe you have to reject all human authority to qualify . I even had sreaming baby behind me ,, yikes, but momma decides to take her out the room . No spanking ,, good momma ....