Posts by heathen

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If you believe in Gods laws why dont you go live in Saudi Arabia ?

by mP in

i think we all know that shariah law is basically mohammads copy of the torah, with minor edits.

slavery, womens inequality, anti homosexuality are obviously written in the same spirit.

so believers why dont you go live in saudi arabia if yo u believe gods law is perfect or at the last useful ?.

heathen

That's like asking if people love gun control so much then why don't they move to canada or china or australia , answer is simple , they all think they are doing the world a favor . The moslems moving to a so called , " christian," country is because the US government offers them free education and all sorts of freebees in order to persuade them in political ways. IMO

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Check this out!!!

by likeabird in

we all know how the wt likes to go on about how the church would prevent the common person from reading the bible, wanting to keep everyone in the dark, well, they seem to have conveniently missed out a good part of history in the process.. .

notice how what this book on the history of literacy campaigns says on church involvement in encouraging people to read the bible seems to have been completely overlooked in wt publications:.

in the case of sweden, a church law of 1686 required children, farm hands, and maid servants to learn to read and see with their own eyes what god bids and commands in his word.

heathen

I agree the RCC was refusing to publish the bible for all and it was, I think ,martin luther, that stole a copy and made it available . The WTBTS claims other churches do not review the contents and are happy with the corrupted verses that were added in and thus they are the only ones with the most accurate bible . I do think the WTBTS does have some good points on the BTG dogma .

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Newby here

by 1009 in

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friends

i am new here and briefly want to introduce myself.. my name is michel and i am from the netherlands.

became baptized when i was 14, started pioneering when i got 18 and i've been ms for a number of years.

i married another pioneer and after a while we joined a foreign language congregation.

heathen

did the wife rat you out for beating off and watching porn? I know they believe no sex in the NK, (so make a few babies if you must, but don't use sex for pleasure only) but people I don't think are expected to stop now . remember that women are only saved thru faith child bearing and sanctification.

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John 3:16 - "EXERCISE faith"...??

by EdenOne in

the nwt often uses the expression "exercise", when it comes to the expression of faith.. "a notable use of that is in john 3:16 - for god loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.".

i started to be intrigued by the expression "exercise faith".

it is true that james wrote that "faith without works is dead", meaning that faith must be more than just an inner feeling or an oral statement; it must be evidenced by works.

heathen

I think when jesus talked about judgement day and said he would ask those seeking salvation , did you feed , cloth or visit one of his brothers in jail and depending on the answer you either were saved or sent to damnation means there are works involved . The apostle Paul said to do the work of an evangelizer or incite one another to fine works . Grace comes from God only if you actually are doing his will not if you are sitting around doing nothing . The story of the FDS also shows that they are doing fine works so gets appointed over jesus belongings . What makes me really sick are those churches that think you owe them 10% and most believe they don't even have to be a missionary or help spread the gospel personally . Paying others to do a job all are supposed to be involved in is a joke .

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John 3:16 - "EXERCISE faith"...??

by EdenOne in

the nwt often uses the expression "exercise", when it comes to the expression of faith.. "a notable use of that is in john 3:16 - for god loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.".

i started to be intrigued by the expression "exercise faith".

it is true that james wrote that "faith without works is dead", meaning that faith must be more than just an inner feeling or an oral statement; it must be evidenced by works.

heathen

I believe christianity to be a works based religion . Jesus himself worked very hard to show that he was sent from GOD , he preached and performed miracles and instructed his followers Go out in the world and preach the good news to all the earth converting a baptizing .I don't have a problem with term ,exicersizing faith . Jesus and the apostles never instructed anyone to stand idly by and wait but to actually jump in and share in the church activities .

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A Brief look at the "question box" September 2007 KM

by AK - Jeff in

here is the text of the box.

could someone please confirm that it is correct, as i garnered this cut and paste from a non-witness locale, and have no way to confirm that it has not been altered.. question box.

* does "the faithful and discreet slave" endorse independent groups of witnesses who meet together to engage in scriptural research or debate?matt.

heathen

like saying , We don't always boast in ourselves but when we do, we accuse everyone else of treason . Stay stupid my friends..... I think i just heard a brain cell cry ..LOL

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-12-2013 WT Study (HEART)

by blondie in

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friends

i will give them a. heart to know me, that.

figs: i will give them a heart to know me, that i. am jehovah; and they must become my people.

give them a heart to know him.

heathen

Well maybe if the book publishing corporation circumcised their brains they might actually have something intelligent to say. They are the ones causing problems with all the lies . You tell people the end of the world is so close because the generation of 1914 is not supposed to ,pass away, then turn around and say you don't know what a generation is and refuse to admit a blatant lie but would rather accuse those that see the truth of having a rebellious spirit or uncircumcised heart or some such weird nonsense . That one paragraph of stating that most crhistians aren't hypocrites is pointless since their whole schtick has been about condemning all the churches claiming to be christian . paragraph 10 . GAG

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10 Hottest Issues about Jehovah's Witnesses-Your Opinion Please

by raymond frantz in

hi guys ,i'm currently updating my website (www.new-jw.org) and would like to build a page with the 10 hottest issues about jehovah's witnesses .i'm still a believer therefore i would like to concetrate most on doctrines and less on policies.

i build a list below, please tell me what you think ,your feedback is much appreciated :.

united nations affiliationbaptised in the name of an organizationmemorial ,jesus' sacrifice denial mealblood idolization of the governing body 1914pedophilia casesjesus is not your mediatorharsh disfellowshiping policycounter productive witnessing of the good news

heathen

I'm going with the blapheme and the hypocrsy . The generation dogma is nothing but that and the use of romans 13 after they stated that the world ended invisibly thus the governments are no longer serving in any form the will of GOD , i think they took the money from GW whenever he was giving the churches money to convince the people that they need to be obedient to the government . They know they lied about the generation before they changed the dogma thus why they built the new printing facility , now they are making the same promises to people being in the GC , just start over again after the countless lies told all the time from rutherford on , they won't even admit they lied but will insist that it served the purpose of motivating people to spread the gospel good news . They have all sorts of twisted reasonings they use to get out of admitting an out right lie .

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Flip Flop - Can women be Ministerial Servants?

by Splash in

did some research on this and found some interesting wt statements:.

women can be ministerial servantsyes - wt50 4/15 p.122 par.9 (based on 'dia'konos' in rom 16:1; 1tim 3:8-11).

only if there are not enough brothers - wt64 4/1 p.208 par.10 ('apparently').

heathen

I'm of the opinion that in the church women should be seen and not heard . The apostle paul seems to agree with that as well . I do like the idea of women showing modesty and wearing a head covering but not a full blown burka and also making sure the cleavage is covered in order to not distract the hormone crazed young men .

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Are we all missing the true 'MARK' of the Wild Beast?

by Newly Enlightened in

disclaimer: hubby & i have been watching a 5 dvd documentary on the 'secret's of the founding father's' we're not sure if we believe everything they talk about but here is some interesting things to think about..... revelation mentions that the 'mark' would either be on the forehead, [for everyone to see] or, on the right hand [if you make a fist, it is hidden] rev also says that no one can buy or sell without this mark.

the wtbt$ isn't too clear on what they believe that mark is, so.... what is one thing that we cannot buy or sell without?.

money!.

heathen

brother hawk , once you dig deeper into the conpiracy world you get the facts that show they did use the technology in china and it was IBM that developed the tehcnology . All I can say is they are planning something and every move they make in government is an attack on freedom . I've heard there are public schools that won't admit children that aren't chipped here in the US . Very true we've learned to live with their invasions a little at a time but what they want is complete control and slaves , they are not for and by the people but only represent corporate interest , it's fascism , I think it was hitler the first to use tattoos to identify the people he put in concentration camps . The RFID chip contains information about meidical issues such as blood type so really worked great with the organ harvesting syndicate in china .