I never knew that I needed to test my OWN philosophy and world view - I just figured there is right and there is wrong and I am right. Is there something that I am missing?
Magwitch
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How do we test our OWN philosophy or world view?
by Terry inthis topic is about the difference between how we see the world and how it really is.. we each have our own way.. some of us try to be mostly rational.. others, prefer a more religious, spiritual or mystical approach.. i'd say most ordinary people (non-specialists) mix the two.. .
with that premise in mind, i say the following:.
dropping an egg on the floor tests the integrity of the egg well-enough as measured against gravity :).
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What was your "aha" moment....
by botchtowersociety in....that made you decide to leave the botchtower society?
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Magwitch
Being married to an elder that was a total hypocrite, yet loved and admired by all.
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POSITIVE POST TIME!! We just want to know 3 things you are FOR.
by Terry inon this topic we don't care what you are against.. let's be positive and tell three things we are for which are meaningful to us.. .
1.music lessons for kids.
learning to read music and play an instrument.. 2.memory training and math strategies in schools.
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Magwitch
OH PROPHECOR - You must be my long lost Soul Mate!
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How Many of Them Do You Know About?
by clarity inafter flipper's thread about the wt child abuse cases, i started to think about how many children i know of personally who have been sexually abused by a jw!.
as someone who is not especially 'in the know', it's amazing that i do know five of them.
one who was a small baby, at the time!.
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Magwitch
- When I was 15 (in WI) I was friends with a girl at the hall that was about the same age as me. Her family was much like something out of the movie Deliverance. Well, she got pregnant and come to find out it was her (witness) father that molested her.
- In my 20's there was an elderly MS in our hall that was much loved. Come to find out he molested about 8 girls (young teenagers) in our hall. One went to the (worldy) authorities and the story was all over the front page of the newspapers for a few weeks.
- My oldest nephew in WI was molested by a brother in his hall. Starting at the age of 5 and lasting until he was 11.
- My last hall, the case was quite a scandel and quite public. He was an elder who was regularly molesting his 9 year old adopted daughter. He then went on to other young girls in hall before he was caught. This was all over the papers, and he committed suicide before he was sentenced.
- At the Memorial last week, there was a brother sitting in the front row... My sister wispered over to me ..."He just got done serving a 3 year sentence for molesting his stepdaughters - though he always maintained he was innocent."
The above cases were all very public, that is why I knew about them. I shudder to think of the untold many that did not make it to the newspapers or end in a public pregnancy.
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What are your thoughts on marrying later in life?
by cult classic inmy 2nd-time widowed fil is remarrying this summer at the age of 73. his fiancee is a never-before-married woman in her mid-50s with one adult son.
his children are pretty mad about the upcoming nuptials.
they feel the woman is a gold digger.
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Magwitch
My widowed FIL (age 75) married a sister in his hall that was 42. We were all totally against the marriage. He was well to do and newly baptized. Within 3 years (of living on McDonalds, Wendys and Burger King) he was diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer. He died shortly after the diagnosis. He had a will that gave everything to his two children (my husband at the time). However, since the will was drawn up a year before his new marriage it was worthless. She got EVERYTHING (including the salt and pepper shakers and family pictures). He had a large life insurance policy made out to his daughter, but somehow the new wife ended up with that too (long story, but true). The family took her to the elders and then took her to court, however in CO law the wife gets everything if there is not a will (and his will was not valid).
There is no fool like an old fool
I am totally for marrying at any age, but only for Love. No other reasons are good enough in my book.
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POSITIVE POST TIME!! We just want to know 3 things you are FOR.
by Terry inon this topic we don't care what you are against.. let's be positive and tell three things we are for which are meaningful to us.. .
1.music lessons for kids.
learning to read music and play an instrument.. 2.memory training and math strategies in schools.
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Magwitch
1. Animal Rights
2. Veganism
3. Save the Planet
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why would she still talk to me?
by chickpea ina younger woman from the kh i had attended.
made a specific effort to greet me in the parking.
lot of the grocery store after having walked past.
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Magwitch
I am sure she realizes that you are the real thing, unlike most of the people she associates with.
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June 15th WT ( again ) WT Society Bashes College & Earning a Living
by flipper insorry for the redundancy of this being the 3rd article out of this magazine i've made a thread on- but i felt it was important to share these quotes from the aricle titled " make your way successful - how ?
" i think you'll see the extreme dissing of higher education here and guilt tactics used to discourage jw members from getting a college education or earning a decent living.. under the subheading " higher education " ?
it states, " a christian has a scriptural obligation to care for his family, and that includes providing for their material needs.
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Magwitch
" Becoming absorbed in a secular job can rob a Christian of the energy needed to maintain his own spiritual balance and to assist his family. If a Christian is overly involved in a secular career, he can end up having prolonged, severe stress. Such a person can even become enslaved to a career to the extent of experiencing burnout. More important, would he have enough physical and emotional strength left to carry out his duties in the family and to engage in spiritual activities ?"
This has a similar ring to what happened to my ex.... I have to say the society almost got it right this time...
Dave became so absorbed in the congregation that he used every ounce of energy serving the cong. He lost all balance of life and was unable to assist his family in anything other than a ride to the KH 3 times a week. He was under incredible stress and was a total slave to the Sunset Park congregation and their body of elders. Even though he was running ragged from burnout, the congregation continued to pile on him more than he could physically and emotionally keep up with. He totally fogot he had a family which resulted in the wife and girls leaving him and disowning him as a father and a husband. He ended up in the hospital having an emotional breakdown.
What a stupid group of men writing this bullshit and destroying families with it!
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Any of you folks from the awesome state of Colorado??
by SweetBabyCheezits inmy wife and i are thinking of moving our family to a better place in the us....away from jw family and out of the southern bible belt.
just curious how many of you live around co and, more specifically, near fort collins?
of course, we're open to any city that is less conservative and has awesome summer weather and outdoor activities.
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Magwitch
Oh and one more thing.....I think your photography would be very much appreciated here.
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Any of you folks from the awesome state of Colorado??
by SweetBabyCheezits inmy wife and i are thinking of moving our family to a better place in the us....away from jw family and out of the southern bible belt.
just curious how many of you live around co and, more specifically, near fort collins?
of course, we're open to any city that is less conservative and has awesome summer weather and outdoor activities.
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Magwitch
I am here in Boulder -absolutely love it!! Everyone is healthy and in great shape - you rarely see anyone with a cigarette. The crime rate is very low - probably because a lot of the town enjoys it's marijuana, which makes many very mellow. There are plenty of fabulous restaurants and a Whole Foods to die for. No end of biking, hiking, skiing, running etc. plus everything that Thor said above. The weather is gorgeous the majority of the time - but most of all the people are awesome. Ft. Collins is also beautiful, but nothing like Boulder.
No end of environmentalists and animal rights people! Your dead cat picture you posted for me would definitely be frowned on here