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  Hello from Jabberwock

  by jabberwock in

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  i have been lurking around here for a few months and i'm really excited about participating in some of the discussions.

  i have already enjoyed several late nights and early mornings catching up on some of the older posts.. .

  when i first came across a link to this board my hand trembled as i held an outstretched finger just above the mouse button not quite sure whether i was prepared to go past what seemed to me to be the point of no return.

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  independent_tre

  Welcome to the board!
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  HI! I am one of the 63% who have left

  by outofservice in

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  hello everyone hope there is room for another newbie.. i feel like i know all of you from reading your posts over the last months.. and i must thank you all for your great and very informative posts.

  it has really reinforced all the things that i had been feeling for years.

  my husband and i were both raised in the "truth".

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  hi & welcome...there's plenty of room, get comfy
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  So let me get this straight

  by TheICE in

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  a web site called jehovah-witness.net where x-jw's and jw's who pretend to be jw's come to chat about how bad jehovah witnesses are and how they brain washed them etc, would it not be more productive to move on and forget than to let something most of you obviously hate take so much of your time and effort.. for some being a jw is about not being part of the world, what other religion is there that is as moral as a jw.

  i am d'fed but i belive that jw's are the true religion.

  sure some of them can be self righteous pricks but there imperfect just like anyone else,we all need to focus on us and not worry about what there doing because we can't change them.. .

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  A web site called jehovah-witness.net where x-jw's and jw's who pretend to be jw's come to chat about how bad jehovah witnesses are and how they brain washed them etc

  Yes, ironic isn't it? The same way JWs claim to be the "truth", but are anything but.
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  Insider outsider Watchtower

  by Luo bou to in

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  i am interested in learning what you think are the reasons for having two watchtowers.

  ( not the party line) how is it put into practise and is it working?.

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  The koolaid edition also seems to cram the no questioning, doubting or murmuring thing along with the hatred of anyone apostate.

  fYI, in my old cong. it was very hard to get additional copies of this edition when they first separated the mags. You practically had to beg the elders to get an extra one.
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  1975 Was Brought Up At the Meeting

  by dismayed in

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  so i'm daydreaming through the service meeting last night, (the end of the "supermeeting") and the ms is giving a part on always being ready to defend our faith.

  blah blah blah.....you know the drill.

  so he invites up a brother to do the demo part.

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  “Even if Jehovah’s Witnesses are wrong, it’s still the organization I want to be a part of”. That was followed by thunderous applause

  It's that kind of thinking that alerted me that this was all about being part of an organization and following the status quo, no matter how wrong or misdirected. This thought process scared me then and still does as I have relatives in. Group dynamics gone bezerk. Has nothing to do with finding the truth or building oneself up spiritually.

  Woah, wait a wee minute, didn't Jesus say we'd know false prophets by their fruits? And what's the fruitage of a false prophet? Oh, that's right...false prophecies.

  LOL...that's a good one
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  Hi from wary

  by wary in

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  nice to be part of the board at last.

  been reading here for around eight months.

  very warily at first, but now my mind is out of the org.. i was raised in it and never would have dreamed at looking at internet sites for fear of being misled.

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  Welcome wary,

  I'm sure someone has written about the 'withdrawal stages' that comes with leaving a high pressure group. It always seems to start with doubt. Once I was convinced of the fallacy of that belief system, I felt as if my foundation was gone, as if the rug were pulled from beneath my feet. Then I was angry... angry about all the wasted time, angry at feeling duped. Angry wishing that I could have had more normalcy in my childhood. Somewhere along the line comes acceptance. A poster here coined the term ex-ex JW, when you are no longer concerned with anymore "new light" or any more of their ever-changing "truth". At that point you want to just enjoy new things, mend old relationships, and just move the heck on. I feel /hope like I'm moving toward that point fairly quickly. I don't think these stages are discreet, maybe not even in that order. But once you leave mentally, there's always hope.

  Take care and take some time to digest and deal with everything that has happened. This site will be here, Thank God.
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  To Newbies--Please read

  by rebel8 in

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  you've found the courage to visit this forum, or maybe you happened across us, or maybe you're just here to complain about us.

  let me save you some time-think of this as your automated telephone response....you know, press 1 to reach customer service..... if you're a jw or ex-jw who is afraid of apostates but just wants some info...... * stick around, lurking is fine if you need to.

  * apostasy is not contagious (even though wts called it rabies at one time).

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  excellent advice!
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  Thanks and Who Am I...

  by trebor in

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  first thanks to all for this board and forum and all the stories, information and thoughts that are shared.

  i have been a lurker now for almost a year, and now that newbies can get on board, here i am.. here's my story.

  baptized at 15 and made ministerial servant by 19. my father, mother, siblings and entire side of my mother's family are jehovah's witnesses.

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  Welcome Trebor, thanks for posting your experience. The influx of newbies gives new life to an already wonderful resource for those leaving the org. Hope to read more of your posts.
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  Not a Lurker anymore!!!!!

  by Ohio Nana in

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  i have been reading your posts the last couple of weeks and wanted to post and talk to all of you and at last i can.. first i am (or was)a unbaptised publisher but have jw daughter (really into it)and jw granddaughters and df son in law(for smoking).. i studied for 2 yrs and tried field service(hated hated hated it).anyway reading your posts helped me to make the decison that.

  i just couldn't go on going to meetings even to be with my grandchildren(who i love dearly)and living a lie.

  i believe jw's are a cult and the.

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  Rolls out the another welcome mat.... Hello!!!
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  I'm Finally Registered!

  by SuspiciousMinds in

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  wow - finally!.

  after several months of reading this forum daily, i'm finally registered and able to post!

  i know many of you well from reading current threads almost daily since last summer.

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  Well Howdy!!