This makes sense... I mean if the JWs are prospering in foreign countries, why not tap in to this large territory right here at home.
song19
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new Tract
by metajw ininteresting notes from the first round of district conventions in canada:.
"you can trust the creator!
" was said to be prepared uniquely for aboriginals in canada (and north america in general, i guess).. http://metajw.googlepages.com/t82.pdf.
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Have you found a new bible translation you like?
by New light for you ini know, it seems like half of everyone that leaves turns athiest.... but for those of us out there, who figure on still being christian, have you found a translation of the bible that you belive lives "up to par"?
i'm really trying to research, but there's so many, i wondered if you had any input!.
thanks!.
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song19
When my hubby decided to getting another Bible, he choose the NIV. He did some research on it and definitely wanted to get a Bible that wasn't attached to a religion. We still compare translations though and don’t stick to just one Bible.
We had also planned to get an interlinear. In the mean time, we use the web. http://www.studylight.org/ and http://www.greeknewtestament.com/
But now that we no longer need to prove that the NWT is mistranslated, we don’t research each scripture as much.
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song19
Happy Fathers Day! and a special Happy First Fathers Day to Prov1320!
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I didn't know where to say Hi - so here I am
by rustonmyhalo ini don't know why i am always led back to jw's.
tonight i feel real confused.
i was searching the internet to try to find some evidence that jesus existed and that all religion is not just some great hoax.
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song19
Welcome! Always glad to see new ones join in!!
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Some single older women in bad circumstances
by LongHairGal ini am saddened and angry to observe the pitiful situation some of my jw single female friends are in.
they are over 40 and have little work record, hardly any money and in some instances compromised health issues.
i am angry because these women were waiting for armageddon to come and save them.
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song19
I can’t help but agree wit you LHG. I know of a few sisters in their 30's and 40's. A good friend of mine, who I have lost touch with, so wanted to get married and kept waiting and waiting to find someone in "the truth". She is a very smart woman. It's my hope that she hasn't contacted me because she left the truth. I hope I can find her some day!
The second woman I know, late 30's recently stopped pioneering. She had been pioneering her entire adult life. Problem is, she still lives at home in her parent’s basement. She was forced to drop out of university way back when and has a mediocre part time office job. I can only image how depressed she is, especially seeing that her younger brother continued with his education, got married, and has a family now. She also has health problems to battle too... She is going nowhere fast... I wish I could shine some light her way, but she is super spiritual and self righteous... it would never fly.
Yup, my heart goes out to anyone still suckered into this cult. I can't believe I didn't see the light sooner...
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How did your young children cope when you left?
by boyzone ini have an 8 year old son who's in primary school.
he has to pass 3 sisters and their kids most mornings and they shun me, so therefore they shun him too as he's with me.
he has known these people since birth so he's pretty confused by this.
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song19
My son asked me the other day why we are not going to the meeting. He is under 5, and the comment surprised me since many times he would complain when we did go to the meetings and that we haven't gone in a while. He was only exposed to a couple incidences involving holidays at school and we just told him we didn't celebrate birthdays or Christmas. I guess I just tried to avoid the subject as long as possible, never really giving him a reason. My mentality was why teach him something that you're just going to tell him he can't do. With school starting up again in September, I am sure he will finally be exposed to it all... and so be it. I guess I was never a good 'witness' mom; we were irregular meeting attendees, he would misbehave so badly at the meetings, and my son has only been out in the service a handful of times. Believe me, the quilt I felt was intense. Here I love my kids with all my heart, yet for some reason I couldn't do what I needed to do in order to secure their future in 'God's new order'. I felt awful all the time.
My son is adjusting, since he can hardly notice the change. He never liked reading the Teacher book or Bible story book... so when we stopped those, he didn't even notice. It will be interesting to see what happens when his school mate’s birthdays come up or when December comes. I guess it may be a little confusing for him. I hope the transition will be a smooth one since for him it was just one birthday and one Christmas he knows of that he missed. I plan to attend family b-parties this summer to get him adjusted. Should be fun!
Sorry to hear about your son. I can only imagine how hard this must be on such a young mind. If his fear is the same as I felt when I was still in and 'not doing enough', it must be hard. All I can say is, be there for him. I don't know what it's like dealing with children of 8, but could you ask him if he wants to read the bible with you, bit by bit, to see for himself. Maybe concentrate of scriptures highlighting that we should be good, and kind, and that God loves us... deal with issues or questions he has, that God isn't going to destroy him. (this of course if you are still a bible reader, which for me I am not right now - yea, still in anger mode.) Maybe keeping close to God by Bible reading will relieve his fears since he is still doing what God wants him to do. Keep it as simple as possible. Perhaps one day explore the Bible with him and find together that it doesn't say not to celebrate the holidays etc. If he has a hard time letting go of the beliefs, use the Bible to help him move on and disprove them... at his pace and understanding. Keep the lines of communication open and give him some a little insight on how you are feeling too, that he isn't alone.
Just my opinion, but I think that's what I would do if I were in that situation.. and may still end up doing.
all the best to you and your son... keep us updated.
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District Convention shortened to 2 days?!
by Prov1320 inpay attention, wts bethelites assigned to read apostate forums, this is a great cost reduction idea:.
shorten the dc from 3 to 2 days.
1. save a considerable amount of money.. 2. attendance is down anyway on friday.. 3. gas prices are still climbing.. 4. most people deposit their donation on the last 2 days into the heavily guarded contribution boxes (i worked in accounts at the dc, so i know this is a fact), so the wts will not lose any revenue.. 5. will lessen the "burden" of people having to take time off work (the twist is that they can say this is a "loving provision" from jah to help jws help make ends meet).. 6. one less day for apostate protests outside stadium.. comments?.
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I couldn't agree with you more hon... but for me, the convention, and I know you'll all going to gag here, was a time to look forward to... something special, different from our mundane routine of meetings and assembly days. To shorten the convention to just the weekend, would make it just another assembly day imo. Besides, before kids, I always arrived early and lingered late after the program to meet up with friends. No matter how you look at it, it's a social gathering and I loved meeting up with old friends. Actually, come to think about it, I guess they wouldn't have been actual "friends" since I only saw them once a year. Oh, so sad!
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Do kingdom melodies make you feel the same as did Christmas carols?
by song19 ini celebrated christmas for about 8 years with zeal, and a few years afterward because my dad forced it on us.
(i was one of those who loved learning the truth and readily gave up holidays.
) for years and years, and even to this day, christmas carols would give me warming feelings of love and joy and family the music would bring out the memories and emotions of the time of year.
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I celebrated Christmas for about 8 years with zeal, and a few years afterward because my dad forced it on us. (I was one of those who loved learning the ‘truth’ and readily gave up holidays.) For years and years, and even to this day, Christmas carols would give me warming feelings of love and joy and family… the music would bring out the memories and emotions of the time of year. I always felt it hard to suppress those feelings come December and I always missed my family the most then.
So mom has the Kingdom melodies playing… cause now since she has denied everything I have told her and accused me of being an apostate with ‘no hope’, she has gone into super spiritual mode and plays those songs without letup.
Now I can’t help when hearing the melodies, all the emotions surface of how those melodies use to make me feel; warm, happy, loved… all that crap.
So... anyone else experience this. The feelings that Christmas carols brought up never went away… I guess I can expect when I hear the Kingdom melodies, those feelings will haunt me forever too? -
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Hello to everyone!
by redredrose inbrand new here, haven't even picked out avatar yet.
but i feel the need to reach out and touch someone (smile).
my situation is a little confusing to me, i am definitely on the way out and have been fading for quite some time, however my decision to leave has just been made very recently.
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Welcome!!!!
When I cried my eyes out begging my husband to start making an effort to return to the 'truth' (th), after being inactive for so many years, he finally revealed to me that he had doubt. He never told me what those doubts were but that he just wanted to read another Bible translation. After getting over the heartbreak and shock of, yes, being married to an 'apostate', I started reading the NIV Bible. We actually only had one, so we both sat and read it together and we started talking and talking and talking. Venturing on the internet was very slow and cautious at first, but here we are today. If my husband, a man who was raised a JW, who even made the ranks of MS at one point, and who knew the Bible so well had a 'doubt', that was something I just couldn't ignore. Because if he was questioning the JWs, maybe I should have been too.
It has been an emotional rollercoaster for me... still in the anger faze, but trying to get through it. This board has been a huge support.
Glad you are here.
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Did/Does God answer your prayers?
by song19 inin my spiritual journey, which includes trying to decide if i still believe in god anymore or not i am beginning to question if god listened to my prayers or even answered them.
i think i had a track record of praying more when i needed something.
terrible i know.
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song19
In my spiritual journey, which includes trying to decide if I still believe in God anymore or not… I am beginning to question if God listened to my prayers or even answered them. I think I had a track record of praying more when I needed something. Terrible I know. But I don’t think one was answered.
So… has anyone really had a prayer answered… something that couldn’t have just been coincidence but that you truly believe it had to be God and God alone?