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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

recovering

You actually have amused me Fisherman with your comment regarding my education. (I actually have earned several graduate degrees including a Phd.) Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them uneducated or a "moron" My point in the previous post was to remind you of your own claim that ...

We are just having a discussion here with no harm or malice or disrespect intended whatsoever to anyone. I respectfully submit that same courtesy that you requested, be extended to other posters. You can not automatically conclude that others posted in order to harm you.

In my particular case I have not made a decision yet, as to whether you have a valid reason to object to your pm being posted. What I do know is you have a valid objection or not, your approach to addressing the situation is abrasive and hostile. I need more information before I can come to a conclusion regarding the validity of your objection. I would love to know what the purpose of your pm to Morpheus was? Why did you ask him those particular questions?

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

recovering

I have no skin in this argument , however this is what I have observed and concluded. Fisherman it seems that you are deeply concerned about your name outing you . You have been posting for years , often questioning Watchtower policy. If fisherman is your real name it would appear be you who have outed yourself by any logical person. You seem very legalistic in your attitude towards commenting. This is all well and good , however you should treat others using the same standards as you want applied to yourself. I point to your profile as evidence of that.

"Hi, The information posted past present and future is to be considered viewpoint, opinion, feeling, believed. It may also be the belief, feeling or opinion of someone else and not necessarily mine, or it may be hypothetical, or it may be to see how others feel about a certain opinion or position, but not intended to be authoritative or factual presentational or factual representational. We are just having a discussion here with no harm or malice or disrespect intended whatsoever to anyone. It is my intention to comply with all rules and TOS of this website. It is my intention to to comply with all laws that govern my posts. Again, no harm or malice or disrespect is intended to anyone or anything, just having a discussion of viewpoints. In the event that anything posted violates or is believed to violate any law that governs what has been posted, I give my consent that the information in question should be removed immediately, and also request that the website should remove the related information immediately. I also request to be properly notified immediately. I reserve all of my rights provided by all laws everywhere and I also reserve all of my rights of freedom of speech provided by the laws of the United States of America, however, it is not my intention whatsoever to violate or encroach on anyone's freedom or rights or to offend anyone or anything in any way. Very truly yours, Fisherman "

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No More Literal Peaceful Animals in Paradise?

by FusionTheism in

there is a quote in the new june episode of jw broadcasting, which says isaiah 11:6 applies to people inside the congregations now who have their personalities transformed.. in the 1980's and 1990's, when i attended meetings all the time, i always heard them say this scripture had a literal fulfillment and the animals will be at peace with one another.. here is the scripture:.

isaiah 11:6 (nwt): the wolf will reside for a while with the lamb, and with the young goat the leopard will lie down, and the calf and the lion and the fattened animal will all be together; and a little boy will lead them.. after hearing the quote, i did a search on jw.org, and i found this statement regarding that scripture:.

isaiah book 1, pages 163-165:.

recovering

I am surprised that they have not changed it to this,

isaiah 11:6 (nwt): the wolf will reside for a while with the lamb, and with the young goat the leopard will lie down, and the calf and the lion and the fattened animal will all be together; and a child molester will lead them all.

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Commentary Press

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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friends

from commentary press: "in honor of raymond & cynthia franz, the present copyright owner of crisis of conscious and in search of christian freedom is committed to further distribution of these publications.

more details will be forthcoming.".

http://www.commentarypress.com/.

recovering

The cost of printing hardcopy is prohibitive. There is not enough demand to justify even a limited run.

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Songs to make an '80's Guy (or girl) cry.....

by avishai in

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friends

another thread inspired this one, and i'm making myself a lil' compilation.... i'll start.

"just like heaven" the cure.

"please, please let me get what i want" the smiths....

recovering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4c9Iyu4feg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_ECAzxE0U

These two songs still make me cry . I left the witnesses and shortly there after lost my older brother right about this time. I was so confused and lonely. My brother was one who supported me no matter what.

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Damned if they do, Damned if they don't

by FusionTheism in

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friends

i see an attitude among some people here which is not very helpful.

i can understand it, but still, it's not constructive or helpful.. if you condemn the society for not changing, but then you also condemn them when they do change in a positive way, what incentive or motive does that provide for the people at the society to ever want to change for the better?.

also, what does that attitude look like to current witnesses who are having doubts?.

recovering

They have made no positive changes!!!! They have only changed their dogma when there previous claims have been proven false. Do they say we are in error forgive us ? No they do not. They instead try to put the blame on the rank and file and accuses them of 'running ahead' of God.

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I want to tell you my story:-(

by Deltawave in

why am i here on this site?

why have i lost my faith in this version of christianity?

it's simple.

recovering

I feel your pain . Abusing your children and then blackmailing them is very common in this cult. I experienced the same torture.

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Lucille has been silenced

by _Morpheus in

r.i.p.

bb king.

.

recovering

Truly a legend. I saw him perform at his nightclub in NYC

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Need Help

by ThisFellowCheap in

jw
friends

i'm in dire need of assitance, and i have decided to humbly come here.... first, let me reintroduce myself.

my name is kolabomi, a nigerian and a proud one too.

i am a graduate student in one of my country's leading university.

recovering

Everyone please check out this posters previous started threads. he is a troll please do not be fooled.

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Why are people burning their city to the ground in Baltimore? How doe Looting and Mob Violence Help?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

it's hard enough for businesses to enter these areas the government once had to offer up tax breaks to service them.

in watts, california it took decades for city residents to get a grocery store after the thugs burned their businesses to the ground.

you can see the insanity taking place, when you allow mobs and fools to burn building down nothing good comes from it.

recovering

6 hours ago

Online court records list the race of three of the officers charged in the Freddie Gray case as black and list the three others in the broad category of "white, Caucasian, Asiatic Indian, Arab" without specifying.

The above I was not aware of. So basically 3 black cops, 2 other minority cops, and 1 white cop.

I was aware and again I say this was not a racial incident. This was another example of the police attitude towards the citizenry in the US. They have an us against them mentality . To the police every citizen is a potential felon and as such are treated with disrespect.