I can't believe you guys let the cat out of the bag about Yoda fighting. One of the exciting parts was the not knowing. Then when the scene starts you have the feelings of thinking----no f**king way!----or hell ya----. You have the feeling of is this actually happening or it's about time we see Yoda fight, as you sit on the edge of your seat. I really wish you guys wouldn't have said anything and let five go see it first. Oh well, too late now :(.
Posts by Jesika
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Star Wars
by FiveShadows ingonna go see episode ii today!
...i know i know..it's been such a long time since it came out but i havn't gotten the time to do that stuff especially 2 hours out of a day on a busy work schedule.
but i wanted to get people's opinion...what did people think of the star wars episode ii compared to the other 4 that have come out already.
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Rejection
by dsgal ini faithfully attended all the meetings at the local kingdom hall...someone was studying with me...i went out in field service.but i never got invited to any of their social events.this hurt me so bad i stopped going to meetings.just curious,anyone else ever experience shunning?
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Jesika
First I want to say welcome to the board.
Second, boy did you just open a can of worms. Almost everyone here has experienced shunning. I am disfellowshiped and have been shunned by family and friends for 11yrs.
I am sure you will have many replies to this topic, we all experienced it in one way or another.
WELCOME again!!!!
Love Jesika
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Star Wars
by FiveShadows ingonna go see episode ii today!
...i know i know..it's been such a long time since it came out but i havn't gotten the time to do that stuff especially 2 hours out of a day on a busy work schedule.
but i wanted to get people's opinion...what did people think of the star wars episode ii compared to the other 4 that have come out already.
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Jesika
You will love it!!!! I saw it the first day it came out and then went again. I agree with Little Toe's comments too.
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What does Apostate REALY mean??
by Jesika ini found this posted on the women-awake group.
i found it interesting----do remember that the comments made after are not mine, even though i thought they were good comments--i won't take credit for them.
apostates and apostasy reconsidered.
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Jesika
I found this posted on the women-awake group. I found it interesting----do remember that the comments made after are not mine, even though I thought they were good comments--I won't take credit for them. If this was posted before, sorry, didn't see it.
Apostates and Apostasy Reconsidered
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New Light on the Present Rampant Apostasy
The Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses use the term "Apostate" and "Apostasy" as though these were copyrighted names that were originated by them and are for their exclusive use in describing those who have forsaken the uncomfortable chains of the WT organization and gone on to another faith, no faith or whatever.
Some may be, consciously or unconsciously, wounded by the Witnesses use of this term as a derogatory comment on them, as exJWs. Any who feel the WT has a right to impugn the moral or spiritual status of such former believers, are encouraged to take a hard look at what they are being branded as and by whom such branding is being done.
Funk & Wagnalls standard desk dictionary, 1983 Edition, defines the word as follows
Apostasy [noun-(plural-sies)] Desertion of ones faith, religion, party or principles. Also apostasy. apostate adj. & noun.
In view of this generally accepted definition, the terms apostates and apostasy are found to have a wide application and a long history.
1 - It is generally accepted that a large proportion of Witnesses were at one time adherents to other religious faiths or dogma. Having forsaken (we would assume) such former faiths when they embraced the WT religion, they could rightly be called apostates. Such an assumption would also reasonably apply to many in the worldwide Bethels. It may be concluded, then, that the entire WT organization is permeated with apostates, who have at some point forsaken their faith and turned their backs on their religious teachings.
2 Although the religious pedigree of many of the leaders in recent times is not too well publicized, it is well established that both of the early church fathers who founded or developed the Watchtower organization, migrated to such beliefs from former churches. In embracing the Truth (as they accept it) they were patently guilty of Apostasy. Thus we can assume that the organization was founded and nurtured by two prominent Apostates, Chares Taze Russell and Judge J. F. Russell.
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3 We can carry the above reasoning down through the centuries. To avoid the redundancy of showing the names and history of the many links the WT tries to make from the present WT hierarchy to the early Christians, we will jump to the apostolic times. We would make the observation that Saul of Tarsus departed for Damascus as an adherent to the beliefs and faith of the Pharisees, a branch or sect of the Jewish faith. When struck blind in his headlong pursuit and persecution of the followers of Jesus of Nazareth, he emerged as the converted Apostle Paul and embraced Apostasy with his abandonment of his former beliefs and his startling conversion to the Christian faith.
4 We might conclude this brief history of apostasy with the observation that Jesus of Nazareth was raised by Joseph and Mary as an apparently well-taught student of his familys belief structure. His debates, at an early age with the elders at the temple, would attest to his involvement in the religious activities of his day. To any Bible student it is apparent that the religious leaders of his time were sorely aggrieved by his preaching of a doctrine that opposed the accepted church dogma and obviously viewed him as an Apostate, worthy of the supreme penalty, death.
In summary, it becomes apparent to anyone who wishes to make a study of it, that Apostasy has a long and wide-ranging history. It is also apparent that many people would feel that the Apostates should be viewed as a group who could number among themselves some very impressive examples of approved apostasy, including, depending on your view, many of the accepted leaders of Jehovahs Witnesses.
Despite having to be bundled in with some persons they may not any longer agree with, current exJWs can accept with pride the designation Apostate, as it obviously has an acceptable, and indeed honourable, history. The connotations and meaning currently imputed to the terms by the average Witness are just another example of the ability of the WT organization to make their followers accept black as white or up as down, as they would wish them to think.
Hold your heads high, all you Apostates. It is a badge of honour and a mark of distinction to be found able to think for yourselves and thus reject the WT dogma and embrace freedom from the WTs intellectual prison.
Congratulations !!!!!!!
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* t g i f *
by zev in.
so, whats up for your friday nite, my fellow 'postates?.
whatchya doing to chill/relax/unwind?.
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Jesika
Meet up with my mom and have a beer, then go to Valis's house, and then pick up my son for the weekend.
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what kind of addict are you?
by Incense_and_Peppermints inyou are addicted to life!
you are outgoing and content with yourself.
you make friends easily and have high goals to aim for.
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Jesika
Mine said life too.
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Eyes Open
by WildTurkey inas i look back at my life as a dub, now that i have my eyes open, sometimes i really feel like a fool, because some of the things we believed are just dumb, shows the power of fear and mind control.
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Jesika
Hey Turkey,
I have felt the SAME way. At least we were smart enough to get out. There are still 6million people still being stupid.
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I wonder about the people in these congregations
by Sadie5 inthat bill, barb& joe and the pandello attended.
i know they are all separate congregations in different areas.
but are all these people just sitting back watching this happen?
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Jesika
You have to remember that Jw's have been told their policy on abuse is backed by the bible. So to them Bill and the rest of them are going against the bible and his earthly based orgaization. What do you expect from a bunch of mindless robots???
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Jesika
I don't have to tell you that I understand, cause all I would have to tell you is I am df'd. I have not cried about the loss of family in over 5-6yrs. Last night I was in the chat room and one of the people on the board said something in a way that brought back all the feelings I have refused to feel for so long. I am keeping back the tears now as I am writing this........but I was crying soooooo hard I couldn't even see the screen in the chat room. A life time in a cult takes a long time to get over, some would say it takes a lifetime. I know that it hurts to see that everything you were ever taught and believed wholeheartedly was a lie. The feeling of betrayal from the ones who preached to speak the truth and did so in the name of God, and have lied to us the whole time isn't easy to deal with. You find yourself asking WHY over and over again---but in vain----there are so many reasons, but none to my satisfaction. We have good days and bad days, and in time the good days are more prevalent (sp?). Chin up sweet heart and just to know we are not alone anymore is very soothing---at least to me. We are here for the good days and the bad ones, and to cry is to deal and to morn. We have good reason to cry, and those who have lived that life have all cried with you. It will become easier and that's what makes me go on, knowing it will and believing it will.
I send you a big hug and kiss,
Love Jesika
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Walk the Talk
by Crystal in.
found this on the silentlambs site.. it's not enough to have a dream unless i'm willing to pursue it.... it's not enough to know what's right unless i'm strong enough to do it.... it's not enough to join a crowd, to be acknowledged and accepted.... i must be true to my ideals, even if i'm left out and rejected.... it's not enough to learn the truth unless i also learn to live it.... it's no enough to reach for love unless i care enough to give it....
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Jesika
I read this before and love it, it is very well written.