"ate the same mushrooms" ROFL, Lawrence! My impression was that she was somewhat mentally ill, maybe Narcissistic Personality Disorder? But i suppose some bad mushrooms would have the same effect. hehe.
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Lots of familiar JW doctrine in Ellen G White
by AuntBee inhttp://www.greatcontroversy.org/books/gc/gc.html.
see especially chapters 17 - 24, for those who are interested.
basically, this is ellen white recounting in her own words the millerite movement, the great disappointment, and how she and others would never accept that he was wrong.
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Lots of familiar JW doctrine in Ellen G White
by AuntBee inhttp://www.greatcontroversy.org/books/gc/gc.html.
see especially chapters 17 - 24, for those who are interested.
basically, this is ellen white recounting in her own words the millerite movement, the great disappointment, and how she and others would never accept that he was wrong.
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AuntBee
http://www.greatcontroversy.org/books/gc/gc.html
See especially chapters 17 - 24, for those who are interested. Basically, this is Ellen White recounting in her own words the Millerite movement, the Great DIsappointment, and how she and others would never accept that he was wrong. IT's a truly bizarre thing to read. It's basically someone cutting and pasting verses from the Bible, and using flowery language for pages and pages, to prove that black is white. And false is true. -- After a time of intense seeking and re-studying the chronology, guess what conclusion they came to? The Second Advent did indeed occur in 1844, but.........IT WAS INVISIBLE!! Hmmm, sound familiar?
Some recurring themes I noticed were:
churches bad, us good
Our group, or individuals in it are....people or prophecies in the Bible! Like, we're the wise virgins. And some guy's prophetic chart was the fulfillment of a prophecy in Habakkuk! LOL.
"new light" "more light" "clearer light"
Those who got disillusioned after the false prophecy lacked faith, were worldly, couldn't endure, etc. God used the false prophecy to 'test' people, and weed out those with bad motives.
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Timing Christ's Presence
by Ultimate Reality instartfragment.
obviously, this is an ongoing discussion.
in a past post (which was so popular, there were 0 replies) i mentioned a book by james stewart russell: the parousia: the new testament doctrine of our lord's second coming, which was written in 1878. the book is a discussion of the new testament as it relates to the subject of the parousia or christ's presence.
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AuntBee
Another book that is a bit more accessible and shorter is called Last Days Madness by Gary DeMar. (I would think exJWs would just enjoy the title!) I think there are some differences, but much that is similar to the Parousia in his book.
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Armageddon and Inward sins
by AuntBee indo jws believe that one will be destroyed at armageddon for inward sins, such as lack of love, unforigiveness, doing a 'spiritual' work from wrong motives ('to be seen of men'), lusful thoughts?
sins of omission, like not caring for the poor, not praying for one's enemies or rulers, not thinking of others more often and more highly than yourself?.
are some sins higher up on the sinfulness list, in that only some are 'mortal' sins, and with others, you can still get by?.
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Yet what profit would it bring us
If our motives were not pure?"
Wow, that's heavy. I"m not sure if I've ever had a pure motive in my life. One completely free of self-interest. Having pure motives is a tall order for us humans.
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Armageddon and Inward sins
by AuntBee indo jws believe that one will be destroyed at armageddon for inward sins, such as lack of love, unforigiveness, doing a 'spiritual' work from wrong motives ('to be seen of men'), lusful thoughts?
sins of omission, like not caring for the poor, not praying for one's enemies or rulers, not thinking of others more often and more highly than yourself?.
are some sins higher up on the sinfulness list, in that only some are 'mortal' sins, and with others, you can still get by?.
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Do JWs believe that one will be destroyed at Armageddon for inward sins, such as lack of love, unforigiveness, doing a 'spiritual' work from wrong motives ('to be seen of men'), lusful thoughts? Sins of omission, like not caring for the poor, not praying for one's enemies or rulers, not thinking of others more often and more highly than yourself?
Are some sins higher up on the sinfulness list, in that only some are 'mortal' sins, and with others, you can still get by?
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Your Favorite Movies of All Time ?
by flipper ini know we've had this thread before - but thought i'd be the first on the new board !
some of my top picks as follows.
more to come.. 1. jaws.
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Cawshun,
I concur with One Flew OVer the Cuckoo's Nest. It's so eerie, and really stays with you. DId you ever see the lady who played Nurse Ratchet on Deep Space Nine?
FOr people that like horror movies, i find nothing scarier than really BAD people. Like:
Misery
Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? (very old, but has Bette Davis. really worth seeing. very creepy)
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I truly believe the WT contributed to my depression
by heybaby inok, so here's a little summary.
i have suffered from depression for quite a while, at varying degrees.
several months ago, i made the decision to stop attending meetings (check out my first posts for the reasons).
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I just had to ask about this comment WTWizard made on this thread: "You will be afraid of the Christmas decorations" I actually THOUGHT i was noticing this, with a JW friend of the fam, that comes over a lot. But i put it out of my mind, because i thought, no , that can't be true. I know they don't celebrate Christmas, but i just can't believe he doesn't want to be in the most decorated room with the tree. I'm just imagining that......
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If you sign up for Secret Santa follow through.....
by restrangled inright now i am a little pissed off.
for the second year out of 3 i have sent some one something and spent more than was needed to because i care about x jws.
last year i had a very happy recipient and that made me happy!
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AuntBee
Some people may prefer to send a written thank you note, which will obviously take longer to get there, than a PM. :)
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Why is it important for us to keep telling our stories
by Lady Lee ini realize not everyone here was sexually abused while they were children in the wts.
but many of us were victims.
but many more of us were victims of other kinds of abuse; physical, emotional and definitely spiritual abuse.
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Ode To JWD, from an outsider:
Due to family friends I have come to know and love, I began to research Jehovahs Witnesses. While researching on the internet, i stumbled across JWD. I was already quite familiar with the "unique" doctrines, but I didn't have a clue about the practices that can be so devastating to families, and one's autonomy and mental/spiritual health. IT is perplexing to me that these issues have not received more publicity, and I've already explored some local avenues/opportunities for getting this info more exposure.
I have read many threads and many bios, and have felt anger and sadness. Not being an exJW, I almost felt like I shouldn't be here, like I was crashing someone's support group. But I always felt welcome, and even enjoyed a few PMs with some neat people. This is such a unique group (born-ins, UBMs, faders, atheists, agnostics, BACs, etc), but all share that experience of being "touched by the tentacles of the Watchtower" as KoolAidman puts it.
I'm amazed at the level of intelligence displayed here. You all deserve a book deal! Thanks for sharing; it has definitely illumined me, and moved me!
Love, auntbee
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The list of rules! I have actually thought it would be interesting to pass that out to anyone who takes some of their literature, like when they're out at the tables.
Auntbee