Anyone with a library card can get it through "inter Library Loan". This is an amazing service, which will get any in print book for you, if they can, even from out of state, etc. Our library's web site even enables you to put in a request online!
AuntBee
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Crisis of Conscience Raymond Franz
by Disassociated Lady 2 inthis book has been recommended to me a few times.
is it worth reading?.
how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?
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What a dumb thing to have done!
by Fernando inat times i want to kick myself for mindlessly letting the "god of religion" teach me about the "god of abraham" for more than 40 years.
what was i thinking?.
then again i was a third generation born-in who simply and naively believed the "reality" i was presented with, whilst unknowingly being held captive by spiritually blind, confused, inebriated and insane watchtower religionists in a mental prison with invisible bars..
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AuntBee
Fernando, When JWs tell me that the NT Epistles are written to and for the 'anointed' class, i think of this verse in Galatians:
"Those false teachers are so eager to win your favor, but their intentions are not good. They are trying to shut you off from me so that you will pay attention only to them." Gal.4:17, NLT
The org has convinced the Witnesses that the WT publications have more direct relevance for them than the New Testament itself.
I love your list of contrasts! Cheers!
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Jehovah's Witnesses: Hypocrisy on steroids
by Watchtower-Free infound this on youtube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eot8sac9-no.
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AuntBee
Yes, i did get to talk to the guy with the sign. He was polite, but didn't want to chat much. He has a philosophy of just wanting to present the sign, and thinks i'ts more effective if he's mostly silent.
They seemed a little befuddled when i didn't 'obey' them and laughed at them. But they kept trying by invading my space and acting all intimidating. weirdos. -- Another time two elders came to my house , because i asked some questions of ladies at a literature table, and made an appointment with them. Instead of the ladies, these elders showed up to kiss me off, and said the ladies won't be talking with me any more, basically. -- They had the same aura, like they thought they were someone. It's really astounding to someone on the outside, they seem like someone with narcissist personality disorder.
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Jehovah's Witnesses: Hypocrisy on steroids
by Watchtower-Free infound this on youtube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eot8sac9-no.
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AuntBee
I've attended parts of the JW Convention here in Tucson as an outsider a few times, because through circumstances i became interested in the org and its theology. I saw a lone guy with a sign; he was completely silent. So i wanted to chat with him, and find out who he was and tell him i agreed with his sign, etc. (BTW,i was wearing a dress) Well, i was astounded when suddenly two of those usher/thugs started hovering around me and the sign guy, and really got into my personal space! And there was a third one a few feet away. They were so creepy, saying things to me like - what are you doing, sister? Time to just go on in now. I started laughing at them, it was pathetic!
One actually tried to interpose himself between me and the guy with the sign! Now, remember i wasn't protesting or doing anything else.
The guy in the video had an immediate family member in the org for many years, if that gives some context.
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Preaching to a Captive Audience in CostCutters!!
by AuntBee inso, i'm sitting in the waiting area, and there's this one lady getting one of those long procedures involving color, etc.
so, as the stylist is working on her, i can overhear her preaching to her stylist about demons and immortality of the soul, from wt lit, using her ipad!
she was talking about the topics, referencing the proof verse, and then asking the programmed questions!.
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AuntBee
multi tasking
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Preaching to a Captive Audience in CostCutters!!
by AuntBee inso, i'm sitting in the waiting area, and there's this one lady getting one of those long procedures involving color, etc.
so, as the stylist is working on her, i can overhear her preaching to her stylist about demons and immortality of the soul, from wt lit, using her ipad!
she was talking about the topics, referencing the proof verse, and then asking the programmed questions!.
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AuntBee
So, i'm sitting in the waiting area, and there's this one lady getting one of those long procedures involving color, etc. So, as the stylist is working on her, i can overhear her preaching to her stylist about demons and immortality of the soul, from WT lit, using her IPAD! She was talking about the topics, referencing the proof verse, and then asking the programmed questions!
Going back later with a jwfacts flyer for that young stylist, so she can get the whole picture... It was hard to tell what the stylist thinking, she had to be polite. wow.
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THE TWO BABYLONS as a template for Watch Tower dishonesty in history
by Terry inproof isn't proof at the watchtower.
"proof" is a reconstruction like frankenstein's monster kept alive by flashes of "new light" made up as needed to revitalize a quivering monstrosity.. at first glimpse it looks like science.
when the smoke clears it is madness and obsession riven with fierce contrarian nincompoopery.. ****.
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AuntBee
VERY interesting research, Terry! Saving, to go over again later.
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WT Mantras / Thought Stoppers
by Ding ini've been thinking about how the gb controls jws through the use of short phrases or scripture quotes (often partial quotes ripped out of context).. think of the sound-bite responses you know jws are going to give you in response to points you try to make to them.. ones that come to my mind immediately are:.
-- "the light gets brighter and brighter.".
-- "who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave?".
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AuntBee
"I have to go now, because we're not about 'arguing.' " (interpretation: no two- way dialogue allowed. I'm telling you stuff, and you should agree and be sheep-like!)
I heard Cedars say in an interview: When they come to your house, they are not on an information gathering expedition!
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So what is the Society doing with all that $$$?
by QuestioningEverything ini read article after article about the billions the gb rakes in from fleecing the sheep but i've never heard anyone explain what happens to the money.. i mean is it in a swiss account?
are the gb living in private mansions?
where does the $ go?.
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AuntBee
When I asked a JW that, they said it was for printing Bibles, and for the 'world-wide' work.
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"In Gods Love" bible study ch 15, wife convinced to send our kids to Bethel
by DS211 inafter 6 weeks of hiatus from our home study we are finishing ch 15-see good for all your work.. throughout the last part of the chapter it goes i er how to view secular work--keep it simple and ministry first before work.
so the elder told me of a bro who went to a tech school for welding but got the real welding education with the siciety and is now 2nd in class welder at either bethel or the farm.
another bro went to bethel for computers and is now makes a ton if money oart time and can pioneer (jehovah made it all happen)...then elder we t into how 73% of kids cant get jobs after college and it isnt really an education but mostly partying.
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Jgnat, I LOVE your statement -" Here's the thing. Has anyone asked the children? What of their hopes, ambitions, dreams? I strongly believe it is the job of every parent to help their child reach their full potential. " I personally also see this as one of our major responsibilities as parents, and of course we even make sacrifices to make it happen for each one!
I remember talking to one of the JW teens my daughter was close to, at our house, while he was in high school. I always like to show enthusiasm/support for their dreams/plans, and he had wanted to be a band director, super talented in music! As i was asking him questions, and being excited over it, he just started mumbling and looking down at the ground, and seemed very sad/uncomfortable. -- His brother at their graduation, excitedly told me he would like to become an engineer.(smart enough to do it too!)
Fast forward almost 5 years later. "engineer" brother is working as a lifeguard, a job kids around here do at age 16; he's pushing 23. He said he is taking classes to work in something related to what the dad does, which he also told me about 3 years ago, So obviously he is still not even qualified for that job. But he remarked it'll be good, because it's 'easy.' He told my daughter, who he was in love with for years, that he loves living at home, it's a sweet gig, and he hopes he can as long as possible!! -- Other brother we knew as a teen is almost 25, left college after a year or 2, lives at home, and i think has some kind of anxiety disorder, and doesn't seem to do much. Oldest brother recently moved back home, he must be around 30. So here we have FOUR GROWN MEN, not even close to being able to move out, marry, etc.!! As a parent, this just makes me SO MAD; i cannot even fathom this. I know ,i know it's the mind control ,etc.
Several of us concerned parents outside of JW world have been concerned about them for years, and we all concur that the mother has some type of mental illness, so it is a double whammy for these sons. I wish there was a way to help them. :(
I'm sure it will be so good for your kids DS211, to have one parent out of the WT, and looking at things differently, and trying to help them find their talents/passions and build a good future.