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Christians risk rejection and discrimination for their faith in Britain.

by BurnTheShips in

the first poll of britain's churchgoers, carried out for the sunday telegraph, found that thousands of them believe they are being turned down for promotion because of their faith.. one in five said that they had faced opposition at work because of their beliefs.. more than half of them revealed that they had suffered some form of persecution for being a christian.. the findings suggest a growing hostility towards religion in this country, which has been highlighted by a series of clashes between churchgoers and their employers.. and so on.

more at the link.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/5413311/christians-risk-rejection-and-discrimination-for-their-faith-a-study-claims.html.

silver lining: there are still christians in gb!.

passwordprotected

So, if a Christian talks about their faith at work, that's grounds for discrimination or bullying?

This thread reminds me of one of those talks we'd always get at District Conventions whereby the counsel is always for those who have been maligned within the congregation. You know, "excerise the fruits of the spirit when your fellow brothers treat you like crap" etc. The counsel isn't ever for those doing the maligning.

So, rather than this thread being about those who are discriminating (and yes, I realise the articles says the Christians believe they're being maligned), it's about what the Christians must have done to deserve maligning.

What about the notion that, at times, the UK can have a bullying culture?

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Picture of Jesus in the KH

by startingover in

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a jw friend told me that a newly remodeled kh in the area has a big picture of jesus with his hand extended in the entrance.

since it's a picture that is from the publications many say it's ok. sounds really out of place to me.

it tells me the jw's are going mainstream..

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When I go into a church with a cross over the altar, incense around it and people are kneeling in front of it and doing signs of cross on their foreheads, wearing them around there necks, touching them when praying, singing praise to the cross I have no doubt it is idolatry but lets try and nit pick here.

Cool, when did you convert to Catholicism?

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wow

by John Doe in

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fast forward to 2:42.. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=robajkgmmie.

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So basically we have this tower with notches cut into it and a guy in a digger scales the tower against, I think, the clock.

Cool.

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Update from Open Mind.

by Open mind in

i don't get much chance to post on jwd, err, jwn anymore thanks to a major tightening of web policies where i work.. .

this place was a lifesaver for me.

i owe simon and the heavy-lifter posters of yore an enormous debt.. .

passwordprotected

Great to hear from you and great to hear how things are working out. Thanks for the update!

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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall

by Hobo Ken in

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this is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.

he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.

this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.

passwordprotected

I'd suggest from within.

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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall

by Hobo Ken in

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friends

this is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.

he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.

this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.

passwordprotected

I know a guy who was thoroughly under the grip of heroin addiction and believed a lot of stuff about himself and other people due to his addiction and what the drugs were doing to his mind.

He's now clean from drugs.

What set him free from drugs was something happened in his brain that caused him no longer to believe the things that he once did, beliefs that had led him into addiction.

He had to be broken first, though, and he freely admits this. He was brought really low, his beliefs were destroyed and he's now free.

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Christians risk rejection and discrimination for their faith in Britain.

by BurnTheShips in

the first poll of britain's churchgoers, carried out for the sunday telegraph, found that thousands of them believe they are being turned down for promotion because of their faith.. one in five said that they had faced opposition at work because of their beliefs.. more than half of them revealed that they had suffered some form of persecution for being a christian.. the findings suggest a growing hostility towards religion in this country, which has been highlighted by a series of clashes between churchgoers and their employers.. and so on.

more at the link.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/5413311/christians-risk-rejection-and-discrimination-for-their-faith-a-study-claims.html.

silver lining: there are still christians in gb!.

passwordprotected

"You probably remembered to turn the oven off. Relax and enjoy the rest of your day."

"You probably won't lose your job in the current recession. Relax and enjoy life."

"You probably won't miss your train. Relax and do the crossword."

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The feeling I get from my friends on this thread is that it's ok to openly profess your belief and faith that there isn't a God and it's ok to openly profess your faith if you're a Muslim, but if you're getting a tough time for being a Christian then it's probably your own fault for somehow letting your faith be known.

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My JW daughter getting married June 6th

by Gordy in

tomorrow, or when ever you read this, june 6th, my jw daughter gets married.

i have thought about it since hearing she was getting married.

but i somehow cannot bring myself to go.

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Really sad to hear this, Gordy...

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Anderson of the Brazil

by Anderson of the Brasil in

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good morning to everybody!

is a pleasure to participate in the forum.

my name is anderson, i have 43 years and i live in rio de janeiro, brazil.

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Welcome!

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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall

by Hobo Ken in

jw
friends

this is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.

he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.

this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.

passwordprotected

My family never dreamed for one minute that I would leave, but here I am, thanks to a serious wake up call from Holy Spirit I was shown the truth about the "Truth".

Exactly. Same here.