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Suggestions on how to properly get disfellowshiped

by IreallydidwalkoutofaKH in

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here is how i would like to get df'd.

during the service meeting of cource the announcement would be made.

i would like to walk in the meeting during the song (preferably..."then they will know") leading up to the the announcements and walk to my seat in the front of the kingdom hall dressed as darth vader.

witnessgirl

LOL Hortensia...I am SO tempted to attend the KH down the road from me dressed like a common whore. Since they don't know me or that I'm DFed I could play off the whole "I was just looking for some religion" thing...all the while having a blast giving them a run for their "moral" money. hehehe I have a video camera...I could probably buy a cheap purse, cut a small hole in it, and video all the reactions! That sounds SO fun right about now...

Dunno ... depending on the Hall, I'd think you'd have a pretty good chance of getting away with that. There was a study who used to come to our Hall three times a week, twentysomething, long hair, beard, earrings, wore flashy sport coats with pink dress shirts (a definite no-no for brothers in our cong ... supposed to look homosexual, I think) and usually smelled like beer. Sure there was lots of whispering, but I don't think anyone said anything to him directly. Or maybe they did, and that's why he eventually quit showing up. I think that everyone just assumed that if he kept coming to meetings he'd eventually shave and cut his hair and buy a suit and so forth. Sort of like the women who date alcoholics assuming that they can "fix" them.

Wonder what did happen to that guy. Wonder what in the world possessed him to start attending meetings in the first place.

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Marley Cole's "Jehovah's Witnesses - The New World Society"

by witnessgirl in

well, i just finished reading marley cole's "jehovah's witnesses - the new world society" book from 1955. i'll provide a few quotes to introduce it in case you aren't familiar with the book.

ray franz in crisis of conscience, p74, 2004 hc edition: cole wrote the book as if he were a non-witness writing an objective account.

the idea was that by having the book published by an outside publishing firm it might reach persons who normally would not take society literature.

witnessgirl

Don't feel too bad; if the only thing that you read is Watchtower literature, you're a lot less likely to notice when something else sounds just like it. I really like your avatar, BTW.

Maybe you're thinking of Vintage Press? I used to get the two mixed up. Yeah, VANTAGE is vanity, VINTAGE is a "real" publishing house.

Ah, okay, makes sense now--thanks! Was really confused for a minute there.

BTW, since Miracle Wheat came up, I noticed that Cole's account made it sound like there was an earlier government test done on it than the one that we normally see quoted. We're used to seeing the quote stating that Miracle Wheat performed slightly below average; I don't have my Walter Martin book handy, but it seems like this test was run in connection with a trial that took place after the Watchtower had started marketing Miracle Wheat. The Cole book definitely seems to be referring to a test that was run before the Org had come into contact with Miracle Wheat, and suggests that the test results were above average (no mention is made of any later tests). If I'm reading between the lines correctly and not just totally confused, it would suggest that much of the anti-Witness literature talking about Miracle Wheat is making an error of omission. If nothing less, the Cole book is the first that I've seen to quote mainstream secular news sources praising Miracle Wheat dating from before the Org began marketing it. I wonder, however, whether the quotes were taken from news items or paid advertisements.

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cheating on you Feild service time

by Iwonder17 in

i'm curious how many people do this and what is the most that you ever wrote down that you didn't do?.

my highest was 12 when i only went out 1 hour .

witnessgirl

No. I was a good little Dub and honestly never even thought about it. Also I never recorded time spent in the car on the way to do field service, even after I learned that the other sisters were all doing that. I felt like I would be lying to Jehovah and that He would know if I did anyway. My hours sucked because of that. :(

I will say that while I was on my way out I would go out in service with no literature other than my Bible. Nobody said anything about it for a long time but finally one of the sisters complained and I got counselled for it. I never went out in service again after that.

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Places that won't exist in the "Paradise Earth"

by Zico in

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machu picchu, peru.

itsukushima shrine, japan.

taj mahal, india .

witnessgirl

Thank you Tired of the Hypocrisy! I used to ask elders, COs, remnant, and anyone else who I thought might know
where the conventions would be held in the New System, with all the stadiums gone and no polluting construction
machinery to build more with. I wondered whether they would be like those assemblies in the South Pacific with
big shacks made out of bamboo, but on a much bigger scale. I also would ask whether Jesus was going to speak at
assemblies in the New System. Bizarrely, in ten years as an active JW of asking these two questions, nobody ever
gave me any kind of an answer at all. Just blank stares. Why are these questions unreasonable? I'm really
interested in who will speak at these things with all the anointed in Heaven. Will they speak from Heaven, and,
if so, will Jesus speak too? Why doesn't anyone know?

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Suggestions on how to properly get disfellowshiped

by IreallydidwalkoutofaKH in

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friends

here is how i would like to get df'd.

during the service meeting of cource the announcement would be made.

i would like to walk in the meeting during the song (preferably..."then they will know") leading up to the the announcements and walk to my seat in the front of the kingdom hall dressed as darth vader.

witnessgirl

Smoke a cigar while you're doing it. :)

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Marley Cole's "Jehovah's Witnesses - The New World Society"

by witnessgirl in

well, i just finished reading marley cole's "jehovah's witnesses - the new world society" book from 1955. i'll provide a few quotes to introduce it in case you aren't familiar with the book.

ray franz in crisis of conscience, p74, 2004 hc edition: cole wrote the book as if he were a non-witness writing an objective account.

the idea was that by having the book published by an outside publishing firm it might reach persons who normally would not take society literature.

witnessgirl

There is a photo in the 1958 "Report on the Divine Will International Assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses" (about the Yankee Stadium/Polo Grounds assembly in 1958) that shows Marley Cole explaining to a group of Press Department workers how to handle the media. But I think that the quote from CoC says pretty much everything that needs to be said as regards whether Cole was a Witness and whether the book was a Watchtower production.

EDIT: Vantage Press is a vanity publisher? I'm shocked! Really? I always thought they were a legit mainstream publisher. I've read quite a few of their books.

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Marley Cole's "Jehovah's Witnesses - The New World Society"

by witnessgirl in

well, i just finished reading marley cole's "jehovah's witnesses - the new world society" book from 1955. i'll provide a few quotes to introduce it in case you aren't familiar with the book.

ray franz in crisis of conscience, p74, 2004 hc edition: cole wrote the book as if he were a non-witness writing an objective account.

the idea was that by having the book published by an outside publishing firm it might reach persons who normally would not take society literature.

witnessgirl

BONEZZ couldn't be more correct. Cole didn't even try to sound like an objective outsider. He speaks of Witnesses and the Org in unbelievably glowing terms, and attacks those the Org dislikes (Roman Catholics particularly) with incredible venom.

I wanted to mention that I've been told that "New World Society" was a fairly common way of referring to Witnesses prior to the 1975 prophetic failure. Interesting that they kept the New World doctrine but dropped the term. An older term for the New System was the New Order, which I'd imagine they quit using because of this book:

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Marley Cole's "Jehovah's Witnesses - The New World Society"

by witnessgirl in

well, i just finished reading marley cole's "jehovah's witnesses - the new world society" book from 1955. i'll provide a few quotes to introduce it in case you aren't familiar with the book.

ray franz in crisis of conscience, p74, 2004 hc edition: cole wrote the book as if he were a non-witness writing an objective account.

the idea was that by having the book published by an outside publishing firm it might reach persons who normally would not take society literature.

witnessgirl

garybuss:

What's it say about Eisenhower's parents? Anything about Eisenhower himself? His brother?

There's actually quite a bit about Eisenhower's parents, including glossy photo-stock pages showing letters verifying that they were active Witnesses. I can make scans tomorrow if you'd like, though I'd guess that they're in the PDF that cabasilas linked.

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The annointed

by tak in

how do they actually know they are of the annointed?

all they would say is "i just know" or "they just know".. this always struck me as odd.

glory seekers i guess..

witnessgirl

I actually asked this same question on Yahoo! Answers some time ago. All the responses that I got were the same you'd get at the Hall; "they just know", "it's like how you know you're male or female", "they have a superior understanding of the Scriptures", "the Scriptures say different things to them than they do to those of us with an Earthly hope", "their desire for Heaven is greater".

I wish I'd professed anointment. I could have given my own interpretation of Bible verses at book study and nobody could say I was wrong. I honestly didn't know about the replacement doctrine and thought the door closed in 1935. I swear, I've learned more about JW doctrine since I left than I did during the decade I was in. I feel so dumb. :(

Peace,

Heather.

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How Many Are From The South (USA)?

by snowbird in

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thank you, professor.. you are most kind.. sylvia.

witnessgirl

Gullah is also very similar to West African Pidgen, interestingly enough. I saw a page from a Bible in Gullah and it was almost indistinguishable from West African Pidgen, complete with unique words like "dey" and "na". (I'm really into West African hip hop, especially Nigerian hip hop.)

I'm from Florida. I guess that's the South. I don't speak with a Southern accent unless I've had a lot to drink. I do go barefoot all the time and whenever possible, though. The soles of my feet are black right now. :)

Later,

Heather.