Hi NYT,
thank god witnesses are not a cult
Yes, perhaps we should include that thought in our prayers....
'Dear God, thank you that we are not a cult but the only true religion' - Brother Hall am I allowed to say that in my prayer?
HS
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People more vulnerable to cults now more
by Dogpatch inshock, disempowerment, vulnerability.
all of these are reasonable reactions to last week1s horrible attack upon americans and their government and financial institutions, the cultural framework that makes us all feel strong.
"unfortunately, at a time when many americans are feeling down, there is another threat coming from within our borders," says steven hassan, director of the freedom of mind resource center in somerville ma.
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you'll regret that!
by mindfield insniff sniff... you've hurt me... you've insulted me, my family, and my country!
you hateful apostates!.
seriously, personnally i've never heard another canadian say aboot.
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Hello Outlaw,
Soft target,GET REAL!!! WE are cannon fodder for no one.WE have some of the deadlyist soldiers on the planet,well trained and well disiplined.We stand by our friends and allies and will lay down our lives to protect them.Dont mistake our kindness for weakness,for you will be wrong...dead wrong..
You missed the point of my post, please re-read it. I presume you are Canadian. Read your own military history. More bravery in battle could not be found than the CAD divisions in WWI, WWII, Korea and in UN deployment in Bosnia, Korea, Lebanon, Somalia etc. There has very frequently been a higher than normal casulty rate for active CAD troops. Why? Not a lack of expertise, but due to behind the scenes military decisions that very often seem to put the CAD troops in situations of danger not deemed acceptable to their allies.
A book which may help you understand how the CAD have tradionally been used and abused by their allies was written by Chris Madsen and is entitled, 'Another Kind of Justice; Canadian Military Law From Confederation to Somalia.' A number of films have been also made by Canadian directors illustrating the whole issue of how the Canadian Military has in moments of battle crisis, deliberately been left to fend for itself. Yes, soft targets are made of them, it often seems that British and American lives are deemed the more important.
Kind regards - HS
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you'll regret that!
by mindfield insniff sniff... you've hurt me... you've insulted me, my family, and my country!
you hateful apostates!.
seriously, personnally i've never heard another canadian say aboot.
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Eman,
True, but their own military leaders allowed them, and this tradition has not changed, to be used as cannon fodder.
This pattern still exists. The Canadians solid and courageous to a fault are always the first in and are always set up as the soft target, to test the firing power of the enemy, or test military strategies, or prepare the battlefield for the 'real' forces.
Imho, this situation develops from a national inferiority complex that stems from living next to the gigantic USA. What Trudeau ( Canada's only real politician ) called the elephant and bug theory.
As to its politicians; blend the brains of the whole of the Canadian Parliament together and you get Michael Foot on Ecstasy.
HS
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Did Jesus Teach Parents Should be Honored?
by JosephAlward inmatthew says that jesus tells his disciples to "honor your father and mother" (matt 19:19), but luke thinks that jesus requires his followers to hate their parents, "whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother...cannot be my disciple.
" (luke 14.26) .
couldn't god find a way for one to be a disciple of jesus without having to hate one's parents?
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Judith,
Greetings and welcome to the funny-farm. It is an overwhelming sensation to learn that our faith in the WTS, ( because frankly, that is really what our faith was invested in ) was misplaced. You will find many here grappling with similar feelings, and they will be glad to talk things through with you. One point though
"What's it all about Alfie?"
If you mean Alfie, that overweight flower salesman along the street who has bad teeth, a nose like a corncob, and looks a little like Michael Caine, forget it; he does not know anything, I have already asked him.HS
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Did Jesus Teach Parents Should be Honored?
by JosephAlward inmatthew says that jesus tells his disciples to "honor your father and mother" (matt 19:19), but luke thinks that jesus requires his followers to hate their parents, "whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother...cannot be my disciple.
" (luke 14.26) .
couldn't god find a way for one to be a disciple of jesus without having to hate one's parents?
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Hi Six Old Fellow,
If you're just saying that most JW's aren't good bible students, then yeah, I'd agree with that.
Yes, that is exactly what I meant. I probably worded the statement in my generally obtuse manner.
HS
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Did Jesus Teach Parents Should be Honored?
by JosephAlward inmatthew says that jesus tells his disciples to "honor your father and mother" (matt 19:19), but luke thinks that jesus requires his followers to hate their parents, "whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother...cannot be my disciple.
" (luke 14.26) .
couldn't god find a way for one to be a disciple of jesus without having to hate one's parents?
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Hello Joseph,
Actually, I was paying homage to the persistent fervor with which you present your many ‘error’ cases against the NT. It just seems to me, perhaps mistakenly, that you are engaged in a soul-saving, or at least saving humanity from ‘mindless beliefs’, with just about the same vigor that evangelical Christians do, which rather gives me the wobbles!
If you believe that I am working with a belief system, then you must likewise believe that every human on the planet is also.
As to belief, ‘something believed or accepted as true’, yes, I would surmise that every human on this planet does indeed have a personal belief system; established on a host of information and experience that is unique to that individual. This is the argument advanced by Mircea Eliade in his book ‘The Sacred And The Profane’, rather compelling stuff. Place a man alone for long enough and he will opinionate and the ritualizes everything into systems of belief. Seems to be part of our nature.I was a JW for over 30 years Joseph and my experience is that most JW’s are not terribly interested in the Bible! Most would be hard put to defend the WTS teachings outside of their conditioned responses even when at the peak of their ‘spirituality’. Many people on this Board have worked out their own personal philosophies and are moving on, except of course for Larsboy who as you have seen is always ready for a fundamentalist tussle!
As to what Jesus meant by these statements, perhaps none of us know for sure. Given the scenario that there does not seem to be much evidence that he or his followers practiced what he preached in this regard, or that their was not an explosion of rabbinical outrage among his listeners at his public contradiction of Exodus 20:12, there may be more to this than meets the eye.
Kindest regards - HS
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Did Jesus Teach Parents Should be Honored?
by JosephAlward inmatthew says that jesus tells his disciples to "honor your father and mother" (matt 19:19), but luke thinks that jesus requires his followers to hate their parents, "whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother...cannot be my disciple.
" (luke 14.26) .
couldn't god find a way for one to be a disciple of jesus without having to hate one's parents?
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Joseph,
Interesting to see that the zealous evangelistic spirit lives within all manner of belief systems!
HS
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Just another bunch of boasters with toasters.
HS
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Bible Error: How Did Judas Die?
by JosephAlward inmatthew says that judas hanged himself, while the writer in acts says that he fell and his guts spilled out.
both of these accounts cannot be true.
either one is, or neither is, and this means that the bible is not error-free.
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Joseph,
Just a suggestion - perhaps you might entitle your threads 'A Literalist View Of Bible In Error'.
Then Larsguy can abandon his post and get something to eat. He has been without food for days now since you started all this stuff. How would you feel if you caused his malnutrition?
Best regards - HS
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Bible Error: How Did Judas Die?
by JosephAlward inmatthew says that judas hanged himself, while the writer in acts says that he fell and his guts spilled out.
both of these accounts cannot be true.
either one is, or neither is, and this means that the bible is not error-free.
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Joseph,
I've noted that Luke never meant for readers to believe that Judas actually "burst" open, but simply wanted us to compare Judas metaphorically to the old wineskin that Luke spoke of earlier in his gospel. Just as an old wineskin cannot hold new wine, and thus bursts, so did Judas "burst"--in a figurative sense only--when he could not hold the new teachings of Jesus.
Given your thread title 'Bible Error. How did Judas Die' and noting your explanation which may hold some interpretive value, have you not rather shot yourself in the foot?
Are you attempting to prove the Bible’s account invalid and in error or that it is open to other reasonable interpretations?
I stand confused - HS