Posts by hillbilly

george bush had a shoe thrown at him as a middle eastern sign of disrespect, so would you throw one at ted jaracz and what would you yell before the bethel heavy's grab you?

if it missed they would claim "jehovah's protection.".

"that's for the 1914 generation!"......

hillbilly

No..tossing a shoe is assault... If we hit him it's battery.

If some one ever can get a judge to write one...I'd be happy to serve the warrant.

Hill

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Big 3 Bailout related stuff

by hillbilly in

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i got this in an e-mail, and it is pretty much spot on!.

troy clarke president general motors north america .

detroit and the united states need to pay for their sins.

Heck...even FPL won a Deming Award in the mid 80's... they took a big stab into 'changing culture" and reworking processes. Look at the value of everything and what it does or doesnt do for the organization. IBEW got behind the idea and we saw some pretty good mutal gains (AFL-CIO was into this too back then) and stock prices went up...service was good and rates stable.

A true Union bustin, SOB named Jim Broadhead came in ... set the whole place back about 40 years and ran off a ton of good help... labor and supervision both. This guy could have been Charles Dikens' worst night mare.

I have said before so I will say it again... the UAW and Auto deserve each other... if there is a bailout I hope someone stops the madness.

Jeff

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Big 3 Bailout related stuff

by hillbilly in

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i got this in an e-mail, and it is pretty much spot on!.

troy clarke president general motors north america .

detroit and the united states need to pay for their sins.

hillbilly

I got this in an e-mail, and it is pretty much spot on!

Letter from Troy Clarke, President of General Motors - followed by a response from Gregory Knox of Knox Machinery:

Dear Employees & suppliers,

Next week, Congress and the current Administration will determine whether to provide immediate support to the domestic auto industry to help it through one of the most difficult economic times in our nation's history. Your elected officials must hear from all of us now on why this support is critical to our continuing the progress we began prior to the global financial crisis......................As an employee or supplier, you have a lot at stake and continue to be one of our most effective and passionate voices. I know GM can count on you to have your voice heard.

Thank you for your urgent action and ongoing support.

Troy Clarke President General Motors North America

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From Gregory Knox,

In response to your request to call legislators and ask for a bailout for the United States automakers please consider the following, and please also pass this onto Troy Clark, the president of General Motors North America for me.

You are both infected with the same entitlement mentality that has bred like cancerous germs in UAW halls for the last countless decades, and whose plague is now sweeping the nation, awaiting our new "messiah" to wave his magical wand and make all our problems go away, while at the same time allowing our once great nation to keep "living the dream"…
The dream is over!

The dream that we can ignore the consumer for years while management myopically focuses on its personal rewards packages at the same time that our factories have been filled with the worlds most overpaid, arrogant, ignorant and laziest entitlement minded "laborers" without paying the price for these atrocities…and that still the masses will line up to buy our products

Don't tell me I'm wrong. Don't accuse me of not knowing of what I speak. I have called on Ford, GM, Chrysler, TRW, Delphi, Kelsey Hayes, American Axle and countless other automotive OEM's and Tier ones for 3 decades now throughout the Midwest and what I've seen over the years in these union shops can only be described as disgusting.

Mr. Clark, the president of General Motors, states:

There is widespread sentiment in this country, our government and especially in the media that the current crisis is completely the result of bad management. It is not…

You're right – it's not JUST management…how about the electricians who walk around the plants like lords in feudal times, making people wait on them for countless hours while they drag butt…so they can come in on the weekend and make double and triple time…for a job they easily could have done within their normal 40 hour week.

How about the line workers who threaten newbies with all kinds of scare tactics…for putting out too many parts on a shift…and for being too productive (mustn't expose the lazy bums who have been getting overpaid for decades for their horrific underproduction, must we?!?) Do you really not know about this stuff?!?

How about this great sentiment abridged from Mr. Clarke's sad plea:
over the last few years …we have closed the quality and efficiency gaps with our competitors.

What the hell has Detroit been doing for the last 40 years?!?

Did we really JUST wake up to the gaps in quality and efficiency between us and them?

The K car vs. the Accord?
The Pinto vs. the Civic?!?

Do I need to go on?

We are living through the inevitable outcome of the actions of the United States auto industry for decades.

Time to pay for your sins, Detroit.

I attended an economic summit last week where a brilliant economist, Alan Beaulieu surprised the crowd when he said he would not have given the banks a penny of "bailout money". Yes, he said, this would cause short term problems, but despite what people like George Bush and Troy Clark would have us believe, the sun would in fact rise the next day… and something else would happen…where there had been greedy and sloppy banks new efficient ones would pop up…that is how a free market system works…it does work…if we would let it work…

But for some reason we are now deciding that the rest of the world is right and that capitalism doesn't work – that we need the government to step in and "save us"…save us, hell – we're nationalizing…and unfortunately too many of this once fine nations citizens don't even have a clue that this is what's really happening…but they sure can tell you the stats on their favorite sports teams…yeah – THAT'S important…

Does it occur to ANYONE that the "competition" has been producing vehicles, EXTREMELY PROFITABLY, for decades now in this country?...

How can that be???

Let's see…
Fuel efficient…
Listening to customers…
Investing in the proper tooling and automation for the long haul…

Not being too complacent or arrogant to listen to Dr W Edwards Deming 4 decades ago.

Ever increased productivity through quality, lean and six sigma plans…
Treating vendors like strategic partners, rather than like "the enemy"…
Efficient front and back offices…
Non union environment…

Again, I could go on and on, but I really wouldn't be telling anyone anything they really don't already know in their hearts.

I have six children, so I am not unfamiliar with the concept of wanting someone to bail you out of a mess that you have gotten yourself into – my children do this on a weekly, if not daily basis, as I did at their age. I do for them what my parents did for me (one of their greatest gifts, by the way) – I make them stand on their own two feet and accept the consequences of their actions and work them through.

Radical concept, huh…

Am I there for them in the wings? Of course – but only until such time as they need to be fully on their own as adults.

I don't want to oversimplify a complex situation, but there certainly are unmistakable parallels here between the proper role of parenting and government.

Detroit and the United States need to pay for their sins.

Bad news people – it's coming whether we like it or not

The newly elected Messiah really doesn't have a magic wand big enough to "make it all go away" I laughed as I heard Obama "reeling it back in" almost immediately after the vote count was tallied…"we might not do it in a year…or in four…" where was that kind of talk when he was RUNNING for the office

Stop trying to put off the inevitable …

That house in Florida really isn't worth $750,000…

People who jump across a border really don't deserve free health care benefits…

That job driving that forklift for the big 3 really isn't worth $85,000 a year…

We really shouldn't allow Wal-Mart to stock their shelves with products acquired from a country that unfairly manipulates their currency and has the most atrocious human rights infractions on the face of the globe…

That couple whose combined income is less than $50,000 really shouldn't be living in that $485,000 home…

Let the market correct itself people – it will. Yes it will be painful, but it's gonna be painful either way, and the bright side of my proposal is that on the other side of it is a nation that appreciates what is has…and doesn't live beyond its means…and gets back to basics…and redevelops the work ethic that made it the greatest nation in the history of the world…and probably turns back to God.

Sorry – don't cut my head off, I'm just the messenger sharing with you the "bad news"

Gregory J. Knox
President
Knox Machinery, Inc.
Franklin, Ohio 45005

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Polish Sausage

by Jim_TX in

"in what aisle could i find the polish sausage?

the clerk looks at him and says, "are you polish?

the guy, clearly offended, answers, "well, yes i am.

hillbilly

Live in the Upper Midwest were every other guy is progeny of Eastern European folks...you hear all the jokes...sometimes in the native tounge.

Hang around South Bend Indiana for a while...ever hear of Dufus Day? Kinda like the Polish St Paddy's....... They even tell Belgian Jokes up there.

Hill

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WHY don't Americans realize GUNS are destroying their country?

by Witness 007 in

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usa today everyone has a gun, why?.....to protect themselves...from who?

other folks with guns!.....yes it's in your laws...but they were written when the british ruled you.

one school gun killing every week does not happen anywhere else in the world....maybe you need more guns to protect your kids.....one in the lunchbox.....does anyone else see this.

hillbilly

The Constitutionality of the National Firearms Act of 1934

The U.S. vs. Miller case was a direct attack on the constitutionality of NFA34. In the case bootleggers Jack Miller and Frank Layton had been arrested for crossing state lines with an unregistered, sawed-off shotgun. The defendants proposed that NFA34 was a violation of the Second Amendment rights. The federal district court agreed with the defendants and quashed the indictment. The government appealed this ruling directly to the Supreme Court and was granted a hearing.

One key event occurred at the hearing. Miller, Layton and their lawyers all failed to appear. Miller and Layton had disappeared. As a result, there was no presentation by their side.

The court declared:

In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense.

The fact was that a sawed-off shotgun was commonly referred to as a 'trench gun' in World War I. But this knowledge was outside the scope of what the Supreme Court could use.

In the end, the Supreme Court overturned the federal district court ruling, not because the Second Amendment was determined to be a collective right, but because the firearm in question was not a militia weapon. Of course, it was. But that information was not available to the justices.

If Miller, Layton and their lawyers had made an appearance, the landscape of federal gun control laws would probably be much different today.

A much longer examination of Miller is available at http://www.jpfo.org/miller.htm. For a very long examination, check out http://www.keepandbeararms.com/Puckett/MillerShotgun.pdf.

NFA Terminology

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If we had confession boxes instead of judicial committees...

by mtsgrad in

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contributions would surge sufficiently to allow elders to buy decent clothesthe wtbts would be listed on the nyse within about 10 minuteselders would give up their lucrative window cleaning rounds and get paid by the society to cope with the influx of sins/moneynobody would ever be diassociated (why lise the revenue?

)new qualifications for elders would be accountancy relatedcollections would be outsourced to secuirty guardsrbc = regional box countersmtsgrad.

hillbilly

Never work... puts the elders wife one step closer to the ear of god. They cant keep a secret now... rumors are bad enough...but one step away from the horses mouth?

Hill

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Training with support.

by LouBelle in

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after a very bad spain i want to get an ankle support for when i start training again.

i just want to know if someone has trained with a support (usually elasticated) and if it helps.

hillbilly

The sprain was 2 months ago, it's 98% better, swells up & aches a tad if I've done lots of walking.

thats pretty normal if you had a bad tear. Ice and asprin works too. I have had sprains and soft tissue tears of the ankles knees shoulders and back and hip over the years.

broken bones heal easier.

keep at it... a good sprain will cause problems for a year or more ......

Hill

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Are there times when it's better to say nothing?

by compound complex in

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good morning friends:.

it's said that upon your becoming a jehovah's witness someone ought to lock you up for six months (maybe longer).

perhaps the same could be said for those of us who've learned the truth about the truth.

hillbilly

"never pass up a good chance to shut up" has worked for me...

Hill