am i the only one who sees it as a bit odd that a large number of jw apologists has suddenly come out of the woodwork on this board to defend the actions of the watchtower society toward bill bowen, barbara anderson and the pandelos?
for the longest time, virtually the only ones on this board who advocated an essentially orthodox jw viewpoint were you know and nytelecom/mavman (though each of them could easily be classed with us "apostates" if the watchtower knew of their disagreements with the party line).. but suddenly, we have a bunch of totally loyal, utterly doctrinaire jw apologists posting almost exclusively on threads related to the pedophile issue.
most of them are taking next to impossible positions from any reasonable standpoint.
Noenmadman,
I agree, WT trolls are definitely here. Don't feed the trolls is a good idea, however sometimes they just piss you off, if you know what I mean. It must be considered "theocratic warfare" to come here to this site and then lie about any knowledge of the Dateline/WT/pedophile issue.
Hey WT boys, your pants are down, and no one likes what they see.
HCM
i went to a dinner party tonight that had about 100 people, all non jws.
laughter and merriment and a good time was had by all.. these were good honest hard working people who have no clue as to what jws believe or that they are going to be judged according to whether they believe like witnesses do.. it impressed on my mind just how unknown witnesses are and how little people pay any attention to their message.. witnesses think they are the center of the universe.
non-witnesses don't even think about them at all.. joel
joelbear,
I've noticed the same thing, most people are not concerned with WT doctrine. Only those who are or were once members of such a cult and now realize such, are concerned for others well being. Trying to help people past the mind control especially if it's a loved one is of great concern to many here.
Also some new poster said this:
>"Also don't think you know everything about witnesses, even if you were one before. I don't care if you were a Circuit Overseer or even served on the governing body at one time and now you are not a witness. If you aren't a witness anymore than you don't know what you are talking about because you have a biased view point and only say what "tickles" your ears."<
Poor individual has no clue about life or happiness, they tell us not to say certain things or phrases, but just look at this, how sad.
HCM
do you think it was stupid or smart for the watchtower to call brother bowen and the others in before this scandal goes very public.
this theocratic warfare i believe was a stupid move if you look at the situation from a jw perspective.. beans.
http://www.quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/
Beans,
The WT is failing. The shunning is becoming diluted to the r&f member. Idiot moves for a mass disfellowshipping are getting a lot of press and showing the world what a bunch of rabid cult whores they really are.
HCM
your horoscopes, onion style :) .
aries (mar.
you will be loud, obnoxious and a little erratic this week but somehow, this will only add to your charm.
What's onanism?
HCM
PS. Nevermind I just did a search, HEHEHEHEHE.
It's from Leo by the way.
anyone have any opinions on what effect the new massachusetts law will have on dubba's?
(priests have 30 days to report any sexual abuse-or they will face criminal charges).
if you ask me, i foresee the borg's defense as:'we don't have priests, therefore the law does not apply to us'(by altering their terminology they can create loopholes).
troucul,
The proper WT procedure for any indiscretion heard by an elder is to report back to the presiding overseer of that congregation. The more serious the offense the more obligated the lone elder is at reporting back to the presiding overseer. If this would fall under the "confessional" law once the information were transferred to another person would be a good test.
Time will tell, If I were still an elder now I would resign, the liability is going through the roof and the WT will hang you out to dry. However I must point out, most witnesses have nothing to lose anyway, most of the zealots live on a shoe string.
HCM
dear fellow posters,.
ozziepost and his beautiful wife mrs ozzie are going through a very tough time right now, at the hands of the wts and its henchmen.
in the space of a few weeks, they have lost their children and other family members due to the unchristian attitudes and pharisaic dogmas, despite having tried to quietly fade away from the wts.
The Ozzie's are great, the WT sucks.
HCM
hi there.
i would like to know what the policy is regarding contacting and spending time with disfellowshipped ones.. have there been any changes?.
nan
nanoo,
Welcome. You seem to have the right idea as to your family and the average JW thinking.
> "I forgave them many years ago - I don't bear a grudge cuz I appreciate why they do what they do but I feel sad that they are so controlled. And I feel sad that when they do come calling they are smiling on the outside but thinking I am dirt on the inside (as if I didn't know!). "<
Forgiving them for the WT arrogance they show is not always an easy task. Many families are destroyed because of it. As far as there being a change in policy towards df'd ones, not recently between r&f members.
HCM
what is for the good of victims?
in borrowing some language from pathoforms, we can ask the following: is mandatory reporting of these allegations to the authorities respecting a victim's right to their dignity?
what if they feel too embarrassed over what happened or if it is their desire "not to testify" in court?
Amazing,
This is so true.
>"They would write a Watchtower article to ALL JWs and not just for the Elders eyes in BOE letters ... and tell the JWs to get the police, the courts, child services, and other agencies involved ..."<
If they only acted like the big org. was a loving father and really protected their flock they would do just as stated above. But nnnoooooooo they look out for their own financial ass, and cover up the crimes.
DO YOU HEAR THAT WATCHTOWER?
HCM
i was watching the hockey game yesterday and i thought i heard 'booing' during canada's national anthem.
earlier in the week the same thing occurred during the raptor's playoff game.. as some are aware canada has been mourning and burying their 4 dead soldiers due to the incompetence of an american fighter pilot who dropped a bomb on them while they were carrying out training exercises.
flags are flying at half-mast as canadians try to make sense of such a careless mistake.. i find it hard to believe any civilized person would show such disrespect to another country to 'boo' them during their national anthem at any time, and more so during a time of mourning because of death caused directly by american hands.. i sincerely hope american media chastised their countrymen who showed such insensitive, classless, ignorant and disrespectful behavior to their neighbours.
Pathofthorns,
Did you ever think it could an adolescent male hockey fan that never reads the news paper or watches the television news? There are many such individuals in the sports world, to lump all of the inhabitants of a country into one category because of it is stretching a bit. Don't you think?
HCM
earthquake in the northeast
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the end must be near.. everything shook in the house for 5 to 10 seconds, shortly before 7 this morning...
I felt the rumble and thought it was someone jumping on my second floor. Some friends of mine in VT thought the house was going to come down.
HCM
