a year ago, mj suddenly died.
for years, multitudes of people said michael jackson was a "sicko" a "wacko", a "child molester" and an "addict".. once he died, the man was glorified by people, the media and his family.. what did you think about michael?.....personally, i thought he was an eccentric ultra-gifted artist who was childlike and brilliant.
i was never convinced that he was a child molester but i will say i thought his behavior was "weird" with kids (and adults)..
His family was not all witnesses - only Rebbie, Latoya and Katherine and Michael - Joe was never a witness, nor were the boys or Janet -so I would think Katherine had a balancing act as Joe was the "head of the house".....
I thought he was a great talent, I dont believe he molested any kids and would have loved to see the O2 show
i have learned in my life that i am the only one i can trust to stand up for myself .. many times i wished others would have 'had my back', like when i was seven and my favorite teacher committed wrongful contact with my class....we didn't know the term pedofile back then , and children were not taken serious when they made complaints about teachers .
i wished my mom had been more protective and saved me from some ugly situations .
i knew at 10 yrs of age that wasn't going to be the case .
I truly believe we are alone, we do have to take the stand for ourselves and you have done a grand thing -- your mind will clear and you will see what needs to be done to protect yourself - we all have that instinct, even if our loved ones dont seem to have it at the time we need it, so be strong--put yourself in a state of attraction -- by that I mean, think of your goal and work towards it and it will happen - the mind is very strong and for the relief and peace you want, you can make it happen - even tho others dont help you do it
Know that there are so many others who have walked the same road and overcome
hahaha i just recieved a certified letter , an invitation to a little party known as a jc at the local geneseo ,il kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses to discuss the matter more fully that i refused to discuss with an elder on the phone about .
come to our party june 23 held in your honor ...yea right !!.
so our certified letters will be received on the same day sweet !
It seems like the numbers are going to start dropping worldwide if they have such a drive to ferret out everyone who is not living up to" standards"!! There are so many just attending the hall and going thru the motions, believing in Jehovah and Jesus and not in the organization -- after all, those of us who were baptized years ago got baptized in the Name of the Father, Son AND Holy Spirit -- today they have dropped theHoly Spirit for the "spirit directed organization" and many dont go along with that altho they have to play the game to hold onto their family and friends...
this may sound like a funny title, but it is actually true.
just to give a brief background on myself, i've been a jw for nearly 12 years now.
i didn't grow up in a jw family, nor is anyone else in my immediate family a jw (except my wife and her family).
I can relate -- nice folks all, but conditional-- the will start to look at you sideways if you slow down, I myself havent had a shephering call but was approached for a recent one -- told them I was busy, so guess I am in line for another hit.... will see how it goes and what the reason is but FS is not one of my things altho I dont miss too many mtgs and hang with folks who are "connected" and will step up if help for someone is needed
Its all in the game
i just received word that ray franz passed away today at 1:37 pm eastern daylight time.
the cause of death is stated as head trauma, likely due to falling to the ground, and a stroke could have also been part of the cause or a result of the fall.
he died at emory university hospital in atlanta about 17 minutes after being taken off life support.
Never knew him but from the videos I saw on various visits around the world, he came across as a sincere honest gentleman who probably had a broken heart, knowing what was going on behind closed doors at Bethel... my condolences to the family and if there is a paypal site set up pls advise as I am sure his wife will need the support..... with her health problems that I have read in the past few days there is no telling how she will fare without Bros Franz
TL
i guess i'm a sci-fi person, so...i like that kind of stuff and it's rare to see it in mainstream tv.
in memory of the following shows that got axed:.
heroes.
Miss:
Boston Legal - great show with Bill Shatner and James Spader -
Life
Stargate Atlantis
Currently liking --
The Good Wife with Julianne Margolies
Castle with nathan Filian
Cant get the Closer anymore, but a great show
The Bridge - great police drama, new this year
one of the great lessons this board gave me is the cruelty of shunning by the jehovah's witnesses.
it is inhuman.
the toll it takes on a person cannot be underestimated.
even tho I attend meetings, I am down on FS and have been for a few years -- and do not feel part of the cong even tho I do have friends I can count on one hand that make sure they check on me and we do meals and shopping together.. others in the cong seem to be a clique and I dont go for that kind of thinking, so when I am home, with my cats and yardwork and scanning JWN and the I net, I feel ok - not lonely in the sense I am guilty of anything, just an introvert like some on this board -- and why not! There have been hurts and disloyalties over the years and I think it is a protection of the mind and spirit of a person.. I also can be an extrovert to the point that people do not think I am a shy type, but I am, and always have been, so "lonliness" for me is comfortable -- no real family to speak of - so me wonders what will happen in years to come - the nursing home with strangers -- I hope I go quick -
TL
There are worse things than being "lonely" - find joy in your world, volunteer, speak to the elderly you see sitting on the benches, smile and it will help you - you will feel you have done good things
can any current elders, ms, etc.
tell me if restrictions are given when a person is re instated since 2005??
i ask this as i am reading the requirements for re instatement -- it says a person has to prove they want to be reinstated and have to attend meetings for a year or more before the elders would even accept the letter request for re instatement..... .
Thanks so much for all the replies -- will have some ammo to tell them what exactly to expect
i find it interesting that samuel herd (as co) promoted the book angels and women in his talk "fear of giants".
he called it a fascinating book, once you pick it up you cant put it down without reading it from cover to cover!
he also mentions that russell wrote the foreword of the book and that it can be found in the gilead library.. .
Thanks Leo:
sorry took so long for me to get back to u but signed off shortly after I send the question..
This would make a great picture -- a James Cameron epic... something like Avatar in 3 D
I was actually of mixed mind to read or not, but threw caution ot the wind and thoroughly enjoyed the book..
Will mark this post to check when u have all redactions - but it looks like it will take quite a while with 284 done and more to do.. where do u find the time??
Thats a lot of work
does anyone have or know where i can get a scanned in version of the current elder's book?.
Great copy Yknot thanks for the site
