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  Jesus had to have been born 4 to 10 BCE or history is incorrect.....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. bible

  i was looking up some unrelated things and came upon this.

  herod the great(who jesus was hid from), herod archelaus(after he began rule jesus returned to nazareth), and herod antipas(who killed john the baptist).

  when herod the great died, those two sons from all historical sources are showing to have ruled from 4bc onwards.

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  I think the birth was about 6 BC , no zero year plus he died in 33 CE - that would allow for Herod to die at 4 bc ....as in the interim, Herod tried to kill all the babies 2 years of age and under.....would that make Jesus 40 when he died? The Bible resounds with that number and he being a king/priest would follow that tradition.. even though the bible says he was about 30 when he started preaching...... and preached for the 3 1/2 years...

  Jesus was 12 when found in the temple by Mary - anyone know about what date that was??Can an age/date be garnered from that info hence a birthdate?

  Am I off base on that one?
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  “We will decide who is a predator!” – New Watchtower Instructions to Elders on Child Abuse

  by Jaime l de Aragon in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  must read on jehovahs witnesses watchtower arrogance in failure to warn of congregation pedophiles.. http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-will-decide-who-is-a-predator-new-watchtower-instructions-to-elders-on-child-abuse?fb_action_ids=10151270345663993&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582.

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  Cedars/Annomally -

  why do I get runtime error and cant read the letter on my system? Am I doing something wrong?

  thanks
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  SAD news about OOMPA......

  by redredrose in

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  2. friends

  our friend, oompa, has passed away.

  just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

  it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

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  Such a tragedy... he reached out so much.. read and laughed at a lot of his posts but you could feel the hurt and anguish he was going through for so long

  RIP Oopma
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  Our CO Visit was a Fund Raising Drive

  by Red Piller in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, we had our new co (who actually seemed nice and somewhat personable in his own way.).

  he gave a talk titled something like "do we sacrifice to jehovah?

  "(can't remember the exact title.

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  and not only did the letters get read from the kids who saved and scrimped their money just to send it to the org but the CO even went so far as to say" if someone is visiting from Bethel, why not reach into your pocket and give them something" !!! I could have sh....

  That was off the platform.. and I have never heard that before in all my time ..
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  They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i figured i should give you all an update.

  they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.

  it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.

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  Eric:

  Fantastic video!! You hit on the main points, and hinted at Candace Contis case, what an opportunity to let them know (if of couse they dont already) that the society has been found wanting - to the tune of $8. million and not only does the org have to pay, but the elders and the congreg. That along with the Menlo Park fiasco, the closing of assembly and kingdom halls after they have been blessed by Jehovah for the expanding work??? there is so much stuff -- great job! Unfortunately it falls on deaf ears mostly, but with the elders, co, bethelites staying in and revealing the "light" on such avenues as this one, one has to stop and think.. is this how the org will finally fall? and the elders who are in those JC's just might start thinking for themselves... you had your own preaching territory right there....
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  Can the Borg close down a Kingdom Hall because of low attendance?

  by Heartofaboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the land for our hall was given to the congregation by a local brother.. the contribution box was overflowing with gifts of money from the brothers & sisters in the congregation when they knew we were going to have our 'own' hall at last.. we built it ourselves with help from brothers & sisters that donated their time & skills.

  we had a small loan from the borg to help us finish the project & this was paid off very quickly.. that must be 25 years ago now.. we were told by circuit overseers we would be blessed if we had our own hall & that the fine witness would bring many people in to the 'truth'.. it didn't.. we were never a big congregation, however when attendance went down to below 30 a couple of years ago, the circuit overseers wanted to close the hall down.. the elders protested & the hall is still being used.. can the borg close down a kingdom hall they haven't built & keep the proceeds?.

  why doesn't it belong to the people that paid for it?.

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  As far as I know, the KH in Canada are deeded to the society. Where some are in close vicinity to others, I can see them being sold , the monies going to the society -but we paid for the renos of course, a new larger hall being built at our expense for the 3 congs which again, we will have to pay for and have the societys name on the deed, and travel farther to get to the new hall... Just waitin.. as we were hit the other night with more renos to come after we just remodeled a few years ago... I am not giving anything...
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  They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i figured i should give you all an update.

  they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.

  it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.

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  I noted you addressed your letter to Dear Sir/Madam..... un un -- no women allowed!
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  They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i figured i should give you all an update.

  they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.

  it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.

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  Maybe this has been covered but you said she kicked you out of the house? How did that happen? In Canada that would be desertion even under stressful conditions. She may need the house for the kids, but you are the bread winner I would suspect and is your name on the mortage?

  Do you support her and the kids monetarily, and keeping the mortgage up to date.. Did you visit the lawyer and get a court date to prove you are supporting her and the kids and you want visitation 50/50? Does she work too? If so you have as much right to the kids as she does. You have not committed a crime against the kids, only left your faith system... in the eyes of the law, I dont think they recognize that, or should not as the state and religion should not mix..

  TL
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  My new worries about my mom-Suicide?

  by JWdaughter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i love my jw mom.

  we have had issues and struggles, but she loves me, i love her and we tolerate a lot of things we differ about because of that love.. you may remember my dad died a little over 11 years ago, and my mom took to a lot of drinking and she was very depressed.

  i thought she would just die of despair or drink herself dead or drive drunk.. she has calmed down on the depression and i i know she still drinks too much, but i think it is a little more ocntained.

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  JWDaughter:

  Dont despair too early. Over the time since your dad died, there has been a great change in how they are treating lung cancer.

  I personally have an aunt who had her left lung operated on and that was 7 years ago, she is still with us, her oxygen levels are less but she stills shops, enjoys company, good food...the lung was removed.

  ANother cousin again had his lung removed.. he has gone on to up north, returned home, working, that was 8 years ago

  So its not all bad, just the shock, something like PTSD -- tell mom to look at all avenues and not to worry about the biopsy... it is uncomfortable but they have to know what type it is to treat it... time have changed dramatically in the cancer field. Her actions right now could probably be due to the fact she is so depressed, she will need some help thru that -the dr should be giving her something to help her but not in a great quantity, should she really want to commit suicide. Probably 10 pills every 10 days or so..

  TL
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  Court Proposes Reducing Puntives to $8,610,000, Condition on Candace's Accepting Amount - Otherwise, New Trial Re Punitives

  by DNCall in

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  truthlover

  Don't see my post so..

  is this case setting a precedent in that the congregation OR is it only the elders , that pay the 13%??