Posts by truthlover

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Weird Prayer at Last Year's DC - GB Worship

by LostGeneration in

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at the last dc i will ever attend in 09' some elder was called up to do the morning prayer.

i dont recall him being introduced as a co or anything thats why i say elder.. he starts off slowly and 20 seconds in i realize this is his moment of glory, giving a prayer at the dc and he is going to take his sweet time.

i know the closing prayers are like at least 5 or 10 minutes, but this guy is going to kick off the morning with a long rambling diatribe..... so part way in he gets to the "slave" and he starts naming them off one by one.....ya know thanks for splane, pierce, barr, loesch....so on and so on....til he gets through them all.

truthlover

I have to agree -- last year there was this "brother" from Bethel giving the final prayer, and he must have gone on for 15 minutes - everyone was upset - he gave thanks alright, for all the anointed, again and again... I was so frustrated, as was a lot of folks, you could see the anger..

This year I timed some of them and they were close to five minutes --- but that is still a long time to hold a baby or be able to stand while you cannot.. so I guess folks just sit down and get thru it

So yes Titus -- it does happen..

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Feeling really sad

by NiceDream in

my husband and i have been married for almost 10 years.

we were married really young, and tried to make the best of it.

recently, i began listening to my lingering doubts and realized i've been so unhappy because i was living a lie.

truthlover

Hi Nice Dream:

Its so difficult when you begin to have doubts - its almost like when your coming into the "truth" and your full of zeal to spread the word!

Then, your eyes are opened and you have a zeal to tell what you have figured out for yourself.. I can only say to put a hold on the zeal.. if hubby is not at your understanding yet, its going to take time, a lot of time perhaps, but you have to "pick your battles", humbly and slowly, not overbearing, as he is still in "the head of the house" mode. If he has little association outside the home, he will rely on you, and now maybe he feels he is losing you to something he does not understand quite yet, therefore, you have to make him understand the love you have for him and your child and nothing separate you from that. If you still believe the bible and in Jesus and Jehovah, tell him so, a lot of people still do, just dont believe in a worldy org run by 8 men who have dictated their laws to the rank and file.

The last thing you would do is talk to the elders - they are schooled deep in the org. and this may cause both of you a lot of stress.. think this out--pull together as a family - have date nights, go to the beach , go on hikes, do everything as a family unit and grow stronger towards each other.. why would he say he is unhappy in the marriage? Is there more he can do to help you? Seeing you are 29, or thereabouts now, the 10 years of marriage was a learning process - rather than giving up, you both should be working together.Can you move closer to family? If he feels alone and hard to communicate, maybe having family close could help you, even if it were your family. Many young people in the truth are low on self esteem - does he have any interests- golf? can u play? If not, learn to tennis, etc. anything couples can do - start cooking meals and doing things for him - I dont know what your situation is but the more you give, the more you will receive -- in this case, love.

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My sucky situation

by brotherdan in

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friends

hi guys,.

sadly some of them had been in bethel for 5 - 10 years and were still cleaning toilets.. after about 2 years of it i couldn't do it anymore.

i always knew something wasn't quite right with this organization.

truthlover

BD:

If the baby is only 4 months old, would your wife be reacting due to stress - both of her faith and having a new child to care for??

Your announcement could put her over the top if the baby is causing her some anxiety post nataly.. for some people, faith is life, and if you lose your faith in the org, her "head" is gone spiritually, maybe a lot of things are going thru her mind, how can she bring up the children in the "faith" by herself - no husband to study with them, to help her at the meetings, to help her in service, to be able to attend a party or get togethers for the family, all the things a Spiritual head can do - give her some positive feedback - you will get her to the meetings, you will be there for the kids and her - she wont be alone in this but your transition from the org is something you both have to deal with and come to a neutral stance to save your life -post org.

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Michael Jackson---What Was Your Opinion Of Him?

by minimus in

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friends

a year ago, mj suddenly died.

for years, multitudes of people said michael jackson was a "sicko" a "wacko", a "child molester" and an "addict".. once he died, the man was glorified by people, the media and his family.. what did you think about michael?.....personally, i thought he was an eccentric ultra-gifted artist who was childlike and brilliant.

i was never convinced that he was a child molester but i will say i thought his behavior was "weird" with kids (and adults)..

truthlover

His family was not all witnesses - only Rebbie, Latoya and Katherine and Michael - Joe was never a witness, nor were the boys or Janet -so I would think Katherine had a balancing act as Joe was the "head of the house".....

I thought he was a great talent, I dont believe he molested any kids and would have loved to see the O2 show

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Standing up for myself, a lonely stand

by troubled mind in

i have learned in my life that i am the only one i can trust to stand up for myself .. many times i wished others would have 'had my back', like when i was seven and my favorite teacher committed wrongful contact with my class....we didn't know the term pedofile back then , and children were not taken serious when they made complaints about teachers .

i wished my mom had been more protective and saved me from some ugly situations .

i knew at 10 yrs of age that wasn't going to be the case .

truthlover

I truly believe we are alone, we do have to take the stand for ourselves and you have done a grand thing -- your mind will clear and you will see what needs to be done to protect yourself - we all have that instinct, even if our loved ones dont seem to have it at the time we need it, so be strong--put yourself in a state of attraction -- by that I mean, think of your goal and work towards it and it will happen - the mind is very strong and for the relief and peace you want, you can make it happen - even tho others dont help you do it

Know that there are so many others who have walked the same road and overcome

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Well Freakin finally this Drama has reached it's Climax

by troubled mind in

hahaha i just recieved a certified letter , an invitation to a little party known as a jc at the local geneseo ,il kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses to discuss the matter more fully that i refused to discuss with an elder on the phone about .

come to our party june 23 held in your honor ...yea right !!.

so our certified letters will be received on the same day sweet !

truthlover

It seems like the numbers are going to start dropping worldwide if they have such a drive to ferret out everyone who is not living up to" standards"!! There are so many just attending the hall and going thru the motions, believing in Jehovah and Jesus and not in the organization -- after all, those of us who were baptized years ago got baptized in the Name of the Father, Son AND Holy Spirit -- today they have dropped theHoly Spirit for the "spirit directed organization" and many dont go along with that altho they have to play the game to hold onto their family and friends...

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I like the people in my Kingdom Hall!

by lavozsa in

this may sound like a funny title, but it is actually true.

just to give a brief background on myself, i've been a jw for nearly 12 years now.

i didn't grow up in a jw family, nor is anyone else in my immediate family a jw (except my wife and her family).

truthlover

I can relate -- nice folks all, but conditional-- the will start to look at you sideways if you slow down, I myself havent had a shephering call but was approached for a recent one -- told them I was busy, so guess I am in line for another hit.... will see how it goes and what the reason is but FS is not one of my things altho I dont miss too many mtgs and hang with folks who are "connected" and will step up if help for someone is needed

Its all in the game

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Ray Franz Passed Away Today

by Amazing in

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friends

i just received word that ray franz passed away today at 1:37 pm eastern daylight time.

the cause of death is stated as head trauma, likely due to falling to the ground, and a stroke could have also been part of the cause or a result of the fall.

he died at emory university hospital in atlanta about 17 minutes after being taken off life support.

truthlover

Never knew him but from the videos I saw on various visits around the world, he came across as a sincere honest gentleman who probably had a broken heart, knowing what was going on behind closed doors at Bethel... my condolences to the family and if there is a paypal site set up pls advise as I am sure his wife will need the support..... with her health problems that I have read in the past few days there is no telling how she will fare without Bros Franz

TL

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I miss cancelled shows & list favorite shows

by sd-7 in

i guess i'm a sci-fi person, so...i like that kind of stuff and it's rare to see it in mainstream tv.

in memory of the following shows that got axed:.

heroes.

truthlover

Miss:

Boston Legal - great show with Bill Shatner and James Spader -

Life

Stargate Atlantis

Currently liking --

The Good Wife with Julianne Margolies

Castle with nathan Filian

Cant get the Closer anymore, but a great show

The Bridge - great police drama, new this year

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Comment on Loneliness

by jgnat in

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friends

one of the great lessons this board gave me is the cruelty of shunning by the jehovah's witnesses.

it is inhuman.

the toll it takes on a person cannot be underestimated.

truthlover

even tho I attend meetings, I am down on FS and have been for a few years -- and do not feel part of the cong even tho I do have friends I can count on one hand that make sure they check on me and we do meals and shopping together.. others in the cong seem to be a clique and I dont go for that kind of thinking, so when I am home, with my cats and yardwork and scanning JWN and the I net, I feel ok - not lonely in the sense I am guilty of anything, just an introvert like some on this board -- and why not! There have been hurts and disloyalties over the years and I think it is a protection of the mind and spirit of a person.. I also can be an extrovert to the point that people do not think I am a shy type, but I am, and always have been, so "lonliness" for me is comfortable -- no real family to speak of - so me wonders what will happen in years to come - the nursing home with strangers -- I hope I go quick -

TL

There are worse things than being "lonely" - find joy in your world, volunteer, speak to the elderly you see sitting on the benches, smile and it will help you - you will feel you have done good things