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  My daughter is getting baptized tomorrow...

  by mostlydead in

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  her father is going to her convention, but i'm not.

  i know this hurts her and it makes me feel sick on so many different counts.

  i have a good reason not to go, it's 2 weeks before graduation and i really don't have time even to be writing this.

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  Thanks...I appreciate the hug and kind words. Nice to know there are people who understand.
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  My daughter is getting baptized tomorrow...

  by mostlydead in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  her father is going to her convention, but i'm not.

  i know this hurts her and it makes me feel sick on so many different counts.

  i have a good reason not to go, it's 2 weeks before graduation and i really don't have time even to be writing this.

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  Her father is going to her convention, but I'm not. I know this hurts her and it makes me feel sick on so many different counts. I have a good reason not to go, it's 2 weeks before graduation and I really don't have time even to be writing this. I didn't use that as an excuse though. I feel horrible. For not being there, for raising her this way, because even though she knows the crap that's gone on in our family and by extension the congregation, she's still making this decision, for adding another wall between her and my husband and me, because they think I'm dead meat and I would have thought the same a few years ago. I can't go back there. Not for her or him. She's 28, she put the decision off for a long time but recently has found a social circle at her hall and I suppose she was "encouraged" to get with the program.

  I told her that I understood her decision, and that all I asked was that she keep her eyes and mind open. See what you see my darling. And I told her that since the majority of her family is not active any longer (in fact, her dad is the only one left) that if she ever changed her mind, she didn't have to fear being shunned by her family at any rate. I hope she'll think about that as she's pressured to avoid contact with the rest of us now.
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  "When Eyes of Blind Ones See Again"

  by SixofNine in

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  funny side-note to this topic; i googled "when eyes of blind ones see again" and found a reference in a blog discussion titled "your most hated song", lol:.

  5/16/08jeunellemy grandmother is a devote jehovah's witness.

  and she always use to embarrass the hell out of me with that annoying song she sang in church.

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  The songs are another layer of indoctrination. Very few of them are just songs of praise without at least some little doctrinal twist thrown in. And they take me back emotionally like nothing else. When we had the old purple songbook "Keep Your Eyes On The Prize" was a funeral standard, which made it even more potent. I guess I did hope very much to 'see the dead arise', but I finally had to decide that the package deal the prize came wrapped up in didn't make sense to me anymore.
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  University Project- Please Help!

  by jamief0909 in

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  my name is jamie and im a university student in australia.

  for one of my assignments this semester i am required to design and undertake a health research project.

  for my project i have decided to investigate the relationship between religious beliefs and health perception, or peoples ideas and understandings of health.

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  I'd be happy to help you as I'm doing such a project on another subject right now myself, but I don't attend religious services. I hope you'll get some volunteers...good luck!
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 04-12-09 WT Study (PROMOTE HAPPINESS)

  by blondie in

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  " (matt.

  (a) why are those conscious of their spiritual need happy?

  meetings.--matt.

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  mostlydead

  Yes, only anointed jws have been adopted by God and are sons of God. Yes, only they have an intimated relationship with God as his children.
  
  The other sheep only have Jesus as a father, and become children of God at the end of the 1,000 year reign.

  But heaven knows, we can't have any relationship with Jesus. And they've just informed everyone that the great relationship you thought you had with Jehovah? well, it's all in your imagination. Just get that thought right out of your head.

  Their legalistic treatment of the spiritual needs of their non-anointed flock rivals that of the Pharisees.
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  Did people with those signs outside the assemblies and meetings strengthen or weaken your beliefs?

  by BonaFide in

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  whenever i saw people with signs against the witnesses outside the assemblies, it always strengthened my belief that the witnesses were right.. what about you?.

  bf.

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  Those in my area called them "The Apostates" and for many years colored my view of who apostates were. I don't think they strengthened or weakened my faith, I just dreaded them like a gauntlet that had to be run.
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  Hi Everyone I'm Still in but trying to leave.

  by former2free in

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  i have been raised as a jw and now i recently found out how full of crap it all is.

  the lies are just unbelievable at this point.

  on a side note my parents and my brother all want to leave too my dad is still in as an elder.

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  Welcome former2free from a fellow tip toer!
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  Benefit of Theocratic School for women?

  by mostlydead in

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  i'm taking a portfolio development class as this is my final term before graduation.

  i've had a few opportunities in the last 3 years to speak in front of groups of students and found it not too difficult since i was able to present my digital graphic work via the computer projection system and it was dark in the room and i didn't have to make too much audience contact.

  but yesterday was the first time i had to speak in front of about 30 people with just me and a little physical portfolio, and i felt like a dope.

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  Very true, we can scarcely talk about god without saying, "he" as that is how he chooses to present himself to humans. I only meant that the witness viewpoint of spirits is that they are neither male nor female. Although they all do seem to present as males don't they.

  And you're right, oral book reports and debate class would have been great, but my witness family decided to home school my sisters and I so, I guess I forgot about those opportunities.
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  Benefit of Theocratic School for women?

  by mostlydead in

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  i'm taking a portfolio development class as this is my final term before graduation.

  i've had a few opportunities in the last 3 years to speak in front of groups of students and found it not too difficult since i was able to present my digital graphic work via the computer projection system and it was dark in the room and i didn't have to make too much audience contact.

  but yesterday was the first time i had to speak in front of about 30 people with just me and a little physical portfolio, and i felt like a dope.

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  Well, I'm not sure about them always being more intelligent, I've known some awfully mealy-mouthed, super-subservient sisters in my time which to me is not a great sign of intelligence. But I do think that many sisters have a tremendous amount to offer that they aren't allowed to do, for seemingly scriptural reasons. To me there's something extremely human about making such gender distinctions...much more human than a sexless god would come up with.
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  The Potter: Do You STILL Want to Worship This?

  by WTWizard in

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  2. bible

  jeremiah 18 starts like this:.

  1: the word which came to jeremiah from the lord, saying, .

  2: arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there i will cause thee to hear my words.

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  journey-on, I think that's an interesting thought and rather appealing. But I also think it's reading a lot into the scripture. It also assumes that we're ugly lumps without god. This type of scripture, and there are many like them, are used by most christian belief systems to explain away and put some meaning or purpose into the difficult, crappy parts of our lives. It's the concept the WTS uses to justify all the 'refining' work god does within the organization. For my part, I believe we have the capability to be successful in learning to rise to challenges, learn from mistakes, or handle our grief without an external force influencing us. We have a choice whether to let those things destroy us or make us stronger in the long run. I have a hard time with the concept of a loving all powerful god who is so involved in our personal lives but who doesn't want to be held responsible for allowing the atrocities humans have had to endure. It seems extremely contradictory.