Posts by StoneWall

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Do You Think the Power Grid Will Go Down?

by cameo-d in

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there has been news lately of possible cyber devilment with the power plants, computers, etc.. do you think this is idle 'scare talk'?.

do you think it is a real possibility?.

how would you even figure out what is happening without any communication?.

StoneWall

Sure it will go down.

It's definetly a question of when not if. Everything breaks down over time and lets face it what happened in New York

with the power grid was just a small sample of what is on the horizon.

But when it goes down it won't be for too long a time. They know the computers in the power stations and sub stations

are for the most part well out dated and they can't just shut them all off and do an upgrade. So they're making do with

whats there for now. They have back up plans in place to have some ready to swap out for when it does happen but

even the best laid plans have their unforeseen occurences as well as equipment that can and does go ka-plooey soon

as its plugged into the system.

I saw a special on the hoover dam a while back on PBS showing how outdated the electrical and computer systems

was in it and how so many other power plants are in the same shape whether they be hydro,coal,nuclear etc.

Add to this the increasing number of people moving in and being born and thats a tremendous strain on an already

over taxed grid. Energy will be our number 2 main concern in next few years right behind number 1 which will be our

trying to maintain suitable drinking water for the increasing masses.

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LISTEN TO THE ELDERS TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THEIR TEACHINGS

by Hobo Ken in

this blog has audio from conversations with the top elders in this countryduring " shepherding " visits and judicial.. first visit is in 4 parts.. part 1 here.. http://media.libsyn.com/media/tartanpodcast/doro_1.mp3.

StoneWall

Hobo Ken,

Very good job on the recordings. I hope you can get these uploaded to as many different websites as possible

so that people that may not frequent this site can have a chance to hear as well. The more people that hear these and

similar recordings the more that it can instill in others the courage to stand up for truth and not to take the word of

men that is constantly changing.

You know I bet the Org is already counseling the brothers to be on lookout for any suspicious packages laying around

when they're talking to members and ex-members that may contain a recording device in them.

job well done I congratulate you and wife,

StoneWall

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Looking for WT Feb 15 2009 Study Edition

by FrozenMoose in

hello all, although i have been visiting these forums for a few months now, this is my first post.

i am looking for the feb 2009 watchtower study edition for this weekends meeting.

i like the scans because i can keep them in a binder and have a little more room for making notes on each page.. i came across one thread that had a link to the pdf file but the file is no longer there.

StoneWall

Welcome to the Forum/Board FrozenMoose!

I don't have a scan of that WT but I'm sure someone on here will be able to link you up with one before long.

Look forward to hearing more from and about you when you're ready/comfortable to share.

Regards,

StoneWall

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As a JW or Christian did you have a hard time explaining why God hasn't appeared in almost 2000 years?

by StoneWall in

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for the sake of less argument whether you're a believer or non-believer lets just for the moment say we can.

take the bible as it is in current form at face value.. i'm just going to cite a few examples of bible stories of god appearing and if we had been alive back then it.

shoulda been proof to all of his existence.. 1) leading the israelites out of egypt as a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire at night.. 2) the waters of the sea miracously parting and allowing the israelites to go thru on dry land.

StoneWall

Oh and by the way Ziddina welcome to the board!

I haven't had a chance to greet you and looking at your post count I can see you're still relatively new to board.

I can already tell you're going to have a lot of good thoughts,ideas, as well as dialogue to contribute to the board

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As a JW or Christian did you have a hard time explaining why God hasn't appeared in almost 2000 years?

by StoneWall in

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for the sake of less argument whether you're a believer or non-believer lets just for the moment say we can.

take the bible as it is in current form at face value.. i'm just going to cite a few examples of bible stories of god appearing and if we had been alive back then it.

shoulda been proof to all of his existence.. 1) leading the israelites out of egypt as a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire at night.. 2) the waters of the sea miracously parting and allowing the israelites to go thru on dry land.

StoneWall

Very nice posts all.

I have enjoyed reading all of your replies/responses. It at least lets me know that there are many others who had

contemplated this in some form or fashion.

Ziddina I appreciate how you went to the extra effort to list each of the 4 occasions i listed and attempt to give

a rational response on each one. But the main thing I was after as I stated at the beginning is for sake of less

arguments lets just take the bible at face value (believers as well as non-believers) and say that these things all did

occur as stated in the scriptures. My point is why was it needed/acceptable for God to show that He is/was/am to

all those of various ages and spread out over many different time periods and yet all we get is where some men

wrote about him and that is suppose to suffice for us. Kinda seems unfair.

As KayTee already mentioned as well as truthseeker why was God so active back then and not now. I would

have to agree with truthseeker about I would prefer to see a miracle, not read about it. And good point above in post

about even Jesus according to bible had the scrolls of Isaiah and others he read from as well as Angelic help.

So to put it in other words, why did they get all these proofs of God's existence(miracles,angels appearing to them,

God's own voice, food falling from heaven etc. etc.) and we get nothing other than translations of text that weren't even

written in our own native tongue and that by all accounts has changed somewhat and yet we are to be judged by it?

The balancing scales don't seem quite level or fair. That would be like me having two kids and showing myself to

the one and not to the other, but leaving notes scattered about the house for the second kid and expecting both of

them to somehow put the same amount of trust and faith in me.

Anyhow points I'm pondering,

StoneWall

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horse slaughter, what's your position?

by John Doe in

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/us/07horses.html.

murray, ky. emaciated horses eating bark off trees.

abandoned horses tied to telephone poles.

StoneWall

beksbks I'm glad to hear we are in agreement on some of our culinary delicacies.

If you're ever over on the east coast look me up and we can go frog-giggin or just go in the woods and

look for anything that tries to run.

I've yet to find a creature or critter that didn't taste good in some butter or some type of sauce.

StoneWall

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horse slaughter, what's your position?

by John Doe in

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friends

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/us/07horses.html.

murray, ky. emaciated horses eating bark off trees.

abandoned horses tied to telephone poles.

StoneWall

Let me say this...I think there is a place for all of God's creation.....

....and usually that place is on my dinner table. Wild Turkey here,chicken over there, shrimp,crab and lobsters

on the far corner. Beef in the center. Pork to the far left. MMMMM

And now with all this talk about horse meat I've got something else to go with the deer.

Now its time for prayer..

God is great,

God is good

let me thank him for this food

and for all those critters that was running around before I got to them. Amen

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As a JW or Christian did you have a hard time explaining why God hasn't appeared in almost 2000 years?

by StoneWall in

jw
friends

for the sake of less argument whether you're a believer or non-believer lets just for the moment say we can.

take the bible as it is in current form at face value.. i'm just going to cite a few examples of bible stories of god appearing and if we had been alive back then it.

shoulda been proof to all of his existence.. 1) leading the israelites out of egypt as a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire at night.. 2) the waters of the sea miracously parting and allowing the israelites to go thru on dry land.

StoneWall

Truthseeker said: The JWs response to this is that "we have the Bible and therefore we don't need miracles"

Ok getting back to one of my other points is what do they base that on? Where is it stated in Bible that since

we have it there is no reason for God to appear or show himself?

And Elder-Schmelder I think there have been many people thru history that have talked to god in the ways you

have described. LOL

Why do they always have to be so far away from others to validate their claims huh? If God going to show himself

or talk to one person and go to all that trouble why not just go ahead and talk to a lot at once and that way they

can all write it down for accuracy checks?

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Memorial Thursday: why am I still getting an invitation?

by And He Ran in

i stopped going to meetings five years ago.

all my family are jws.

why does my mother still give me a memorial invitation even though i don't go?

StoneWall

Well they have to get rid of all those invitations that the society had printed up somehow.

If they don't give them out to family then their only alternative would be to go out and find someone else

that wasn't family and that can be intimidating.

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Top 10 Memorial Excuses

by rebel8 in

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good excuses.

pinkeye.

(highly contagious, and you aren't supposed to touch other people's dishes and glasses.)tuberculosis.

StoneWall

My dog ate my invitation and when it came out it didn't look anything like it did going in so I couldn't make out the time