Posts by halcyon

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Can you provide WT references for me of the use of the term,

by halcyon in

"current truth", please?

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Can you provide WT references for me of the use of the term,

by halcyon in

"current truth", please?

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Would you legalize Polygamy?

by sammielee24 in

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it appears that so far almost 300 of the cases from the texas raid have been investigated and dropped.

one girl - the one who has wed to jessop, was placed in foster care.. removing the isolationist tendancies of the mormon group and that specific religion - if the state wanted to legalize polygamy, would you agree or disagree?

the issue of gay marriages has come up and been voted on - but if people could legally wed as adults and have more than one wife, complete with the responsibilities that legal marriages come with - what would the objection be?

halcyon

Would there be tax benefits as you take on more spouses?

If so, then society is paying more for each person's personal decision. Tax benefits for all those children would be through the roof!

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Interesting scans of new lit - 2009 WT, Oct 2008 KM, and a new tract

by DoomVoyager in

i found these articles intriguing.

i'll let them speak for themselves.

the first is from the january 2009 wt; kool-aid edition; second from the october 2008 km, the last is a new tract.. oh, and i apologize for the poor lighting.

halcyon

From the KM: "Why not ask your family members what they would enjoy?"

"Um, I know, dad! Let's do research on just how bad tv entertainment has gotten these days!"

or how about: "Nothing, dad! We can't stand personal family bible study!!!"

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You're stranded

by John Doe in

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with one other person on a tropical island, permanently cut off from civiliazation.

would you want, a republican, a democrat, an independent, or an anarchist for your companion, and why?

halcyon

Can I pick one particular Republican? I'd sure like to be stranded on a desert island with him ....

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Secret Santa 2008 - sign up!!!

by Angharad in

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as promised !.

for those that are new since last year we have done this for the last few years, what it involves is that those who want to join in will post to this thread and then pm me their name and address.

i will then collate the names and addresses and assign everyone a person to buy a gift for.

halcyon

I'd like to join. Is it appropriate to ask to be matched with someone far away from me?

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Something Very Big May Be Happening

by metatron in

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http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/page/content.detail/id/503045.html?nav=5008.

local papers report this, not national news.

speculation: either plans for martial law, in the event of economic collapse ( something rumored to be discussed discretely in congress, if the bailout fails) or pakistan's nukes.

halcyon

Probably discussing the Aliens that just visited Alabama last week:

http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/BGthemessage.html

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your memories of COs?

by halcyon in

i keep having this memory, and i don't know why it recurs.

i remember sitting down with a co one day, one of my last years there, in the back school of the kh, and i don't remember if i was out in fs that day or if it was after a meeting, and i don't remember my "status" in the hall at the time, but apparently i was "weak" because he was trying to encourage me.

it's quite possible that i requested a little chat with him after a bookstudy.

halcyon

oops! Wrong category! Can someone please move this thread to its appropriate home?

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your memories of COs?

by halcyon in

i keep having this memory, and i don't know why it recurs.

i remember sitting down with a co one day, one of my last years there, in the back school of the kh, and i don't remember if i was out in fs that day or if it was after a meeting, and i don't remember my "status" in the hall at the time, but apparently i was "weak" because he was trying to encourage me.

it's quite possible that i requested a little chat with him after a bookstudy.

halcyon

oops! wrong category! Can someone please move this topic to its appropriate home?

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your memories of COs?

by halcyon in

i keep having this memory, and i don't know why it recurs.

i remember sitting down with a co one day, one of my last years there, in the back school of the kh, and i don't remember if i was out in fs that day or if it was after a meeting, and i don't remember my "status" in the hall at the time, but apparently i was "weak" because he was trying to encourage me.

it's quite possible that i requested a little chat with him after a bookstudy.

halcyon

I keep having this memory, and I don't know why it recurs.

I remember sitting down with a CO one day, one of my last years there, in the back school of the KH, and I don't remember if I was out in FS that day or if it was after a meeting, and I don't remember my "status" in the hall at the time, but apparently I was "weak" because he was trying to encourage me. It's quite possible that I requested a little chat with him after a bookstudy. More likely it was a sort of shepherding call, but informally held after the bookstudy. I wish I could remember the circumstances but I just don't.

Anyway, I remember only one thing about that encounter. He looked at me and suggested that I picture myself in the new system, and perhaps that would make it real to me. I remember trying really hard to imagine it, but all I could come up with was the picture in the live forever brochure, and me sorta skipping through the grass. Which as an adult was pretty ridiculous when I thought of it, because as a person I am so full of natural curiosity and a quest for knowledge. You'd think I would have been able to imagine something more meaty like looking at rocks through a microscope, or swimming under the sea to examine exotic sea creatures. But no, all I could come up with was "skipping through the grass", and what's more, I could feel no emotion inside me. It was a picture in my mind painted with pastel crayons, not even in 3 dimensions, and I was a cartoon cutout.

But more than that! What I remember about the CO's demeanor was one of pure exhaustion and an attitude of not really caring or even really believing what he was saying to me. I think I was honest with him in saying I was having a hard time coming up with something "real" in my imagination, and I distinctly remember that he basically just dropped the subject, perhaps suggested a scripture that I read, and ended the session.

His fatigue and indifference really struck me. I got the very real impression that he was just going through the motions, having lost his true belief a long time ago. I don't think he "gave up on me" because I couldn't make it real. It really seemed to me that he shared my attitude and had no resources inside himself to help me do something he himself couldn't even do.

I had glimpsed what I thought was this attitude in several COs during my last years there.

Which was a FAR cry from the very real and personal zeal and caring I experienced from one CO when I was a teenager, whose interest in me as a youth and as a PERSON, as evidenced by his final comment to me before he left our congregation -- he looked me straight in the face, took my hand in his and pleaded from the depth of his soul, "Keep the faith!" -- almost single-handedly kept me attending through many of my doubting years before I finally left. The energy of that time was crackling and palpable. The energy of my last ten years there was like a wet blanket.

Anyone else with similar experiences or memories?