I hereby request that I be appointed to the position of....
'The elusive Brother Some'
Simply because whoever holds this office always seems to get away with a lot.
ok. we ran a thread recently about starting a new religion.. how about we start an international congregation here on the board.. we need 7 elders.
7 being a sign of perfection..er....yeah.. we need ministerial servants.. appointments will be general concensus..er holy spirit i mean.. p.o.
lets start with him.
I hereby request that I be appointed to the position of....
'The elusive Brother Some'
Simply because whoever holds this office always seems to get away with a lot.
i wonder would christians (jw's included) still serve god if it were god's will for them to die in this world and not live forever?!?!?!!.
if u think like that, it makes u realise just how selfish it all is to believe that!!.
they may say that they would but i doubt it!!!!.
I guess my answer to you depends on what you mean by 'serving God'.
To JWs, 'serving God' is equated with serving the interests of the Watchtower Society.
To many Christians (and other theists), 'serving God' is equated with living a life of love and compassion for other people. If this is what you mean by 'serving God', then yes, I believe that people would continue to do this regardless of any potential reward. Many athiests and agnostics lead lives that mirror the teachings of Jesus more closely than Christians. I believe that, at the end of the day, we have to look at ourselves and feel that we've done some good in the world. Especially if we're gonna die & never come back, it would be a natural desire to want to leave this world knowing that we've done what we could to help someone...in my opinion.
i received this from a mailing list and thought i'd share.. ginny.
a new publication is now available called reasoning with the sisters.
but more likely you are interested in your future.
All that work...just to get a piece. It almost seems it isn't worth it. Well,......almost....
at this late, middle stage of my life, i've started wondering, now that i know what i know, about the things in my life that i "lived" with.
having been raised all my life in the "borg" i have known nothing else.
when questions began forming years ago, it started me thinking.
Wow, this one hits really close to home.
What didn't help me was the fact that my family split up - right in the middle of my JW childhood. What slipnslide said about being an 'emotional retard'...so true for me. My parents went thru the messiest of divorces. My dad DAd himself, but still saw us kids somewhat regulary. Not the best image to have. I was the kid of a single JW mom and a DAd father, boy, were the cards stacked against me in the JW world. I guess that's what helped me quit. I didn't want to play a game I couldn't win.
The elders' sons got away with a lot of stuff, while all eyes were on me. That used to burn me somethin' fierce. I can still recall many happy times, though. Not all of it was bad. I was always encouraged to use my mind, which in the long run, let to my leaving the cult.
I guess the hard part for me was stomaching the fact that I could never have 'real' friends outside of the JW cult. The few friends I made in the 'world' have proven more loyal over the years than the ones at the hall. I also wanted a girlfriend I could fool around with without having to answer to a JC.
Being raised a JW, along with having my parents split up, has rendered me an emotional train wreck. I ride the roller coaster most of the time...up a few weeks...down a few weeks. I'm having down time now. I hope I will rebound soon. I usually do.
I don't blame my parents for my upbringing. They were born under the cult's influence, also. I don't know why the chain of events occured which led to me getting free. Why have I succeeded where my parents failed? Why did I have the logic and fortitide to made the break while my parents did not? Am I not a product of them both?
Believe me, not a day of my life goes by without me asking these questions.
roflol.
http://www.jehovahatesphred.com/index.cfm?page=jhp.
skally
Why not?
does anyone else out there remember a drama from quite a few years ago that portrayed noah trying to preach to people about the flood, and he had a friend that wasn't doing all that he should in helping noah, and at the end of the drama the friend gets locked out of the ark and drowned???
i remember at the time, sitting there and thinking...what in the holy hell is this crap?
now they are making people up??
I remember the one you'te talking about. The not-so-subtle message being sent is that if you're not part of God's plan (WT Society) when the time of judgement comes, you're dead.
The WT likens itself to Noah's Ark on many occasions. I'm too lazy right now to find the documentation...maybe someone else isn't...
lyrics that float through my head at idle moments accompanied by my off-key singing:.
"they know such won't get life eternal.
but will like green grass fade and die".
You might be surprised to know (I was) that many JWs do not subscribe to the WTs list of the dammned.
My mother (JW) told me that God judges all people based on their 'heart condition'. Now, I know that this is not official WT teaching. I was told, point-blank, during a bible study that my salvation at armageddon depended on my relationship with God's people here on the earth (WT Society). That was an elder's statement.
I believe that many JWs, deep-down, see many good people that are not JWs, and cannot convince themselves that God will destroy them at armageddon simply because they were not JWs. Thus, when talking with a non-JW, they will admit what they really believe. When talking with an elder? Well, that's a different story.....
as many may know, i'm still a teenager.
i'm not willing to reveal my age, which is one less than 17 or one more than 15. but i just wanted to get your guys' opinion on sex before marriage.
a lot of people here have kinda lost their "watchtower" and biblical standards as i have gathered.
Hey, d00d. I'm not too much older than you, so let me tell you about my scare. I had been seeing (exclusively) this certain girl for a few years. We had been thinking (and still do think) that we have a possible future together = marriage.
Well, it seems that her cycle was a bit late one month. Nothing to worry about, right? We'll wait it out. Day after day...nothing...Nothing...NOTHING. After two weeks we were pretty much convinced that she was pregnant. We cried together in her room. My whole life flashed before my eyes. We weren't ready to be parents, and an abortion was out of the question. She was in college...I was in college...what am I going to tell my parents...how will I face HER parents...they like me so much...there's so much I wanted to do with my life before kids...and so on...
I tell you...I was absolutely SICK. You, my friend, do not EVER want to feel like I did those few days. When your woman announces that she's pregnant, it should be a happy occasion for all involved. It shouldn't be a cross to bear as you sorrily inform your/her parents of your misdeed. I was almost ready to bite the bullet and take her to the doctor for confirmation...when her 'visitor' FINALLY showed up. OVER TWO WEEKS LATE!! My life was handed back to me - and I vowed to never again put us in that position.
Since that scare, we've decided to avoid sex until marriage (aw, hell...maybe engagement...how much can a guy take?!), and we've kept our promise intact. Two years later and we're still going strong!! It's not a hard promise to keep because I remind myself of our situation...we're broke and can't afford kids.
My advice is to wait to do the deed. Get your life in order first, and have fun while you finish growing up. Don't rush things - they won't turn out right.
the watchtower society is in a funk.
no doubt about it.
it is stagnant and paralyzed by its own inertia.. it has survived for one and one quarter centuries for a few very simple reasons: .
Rather than feeling contempt for loyal JWs, I am inclined to feel pity.
People like my grandparents, who slaved for years for a WT (not God's) promise of a new world which would arrive (according to the WT) before their natural lives on earth were over, now see that that promise will not be realised. Can you really picture them giving up on the WT church when they spent their whole lives within it? To leave at their old age would amount to calling it all a waste. Not a pretty thought to have, and I don't blame them for shying away from that admission.
As far as the average JW getting bolder and more rude...I chalk that up to the slow subconscious realization that over the years, God has shown them to be liars...maybe in His name...but still liars, and when you've preached a lie as THE TRUTH, as I did, you may end up feeling bitter and resentful. The WT dismisses people and says that they were serving for dates, well, I ask, if the WT wanted people to avoid doing that...why were the dates held out there as an issue in the first place. If someone was serving with a date in mind, ask the WT how that date GOT in that mind. I agree that a person should do good not because of an immediate reward, but to place the blame on individuals when they did what was expected of them is dishonest, and perhaps...immoral??
Farkel makes a great point about how love towards others comes in many forms. To me, it is a great love towards humanity (and self-rewarding) to use whatever gifts we have for a positive influence on those around us, and ultimately, the world at large. Some people are born with aptitude in art and music (art for the ears), and I think it would be an affront to God to dismiss those talents, especially in favor of a life of uninspirational servitude.
i found this a few years back on one of the sites which has since closed down ..... .
remember: there is a time for everything under the sun.
helpful techniques for getting in your pioneer time .
My JW grandpa proudly jokes, 'I start counting time when I get up in the morning!'
I'm not sure he's joking. WTG, Gramps.