Posts by MadGiant

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The BITE model for mind control groups: "B" is for "Behavior control"

by JimmyPage in

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i. behavior control1.

regulation of individual's physical reality.

a. where, how and with whom the member lives and associates with.

Are JWs discouraged from seeking mental help?

by Kristina1972 in

my husband was raised in this religion, but was never baptized and does not go to meetings, although my mil is heavily involved.

although my husband doesn't practice his religion, he believes it is the truth and i hate asking him questions, because he is very defensive of the religion.

he and his mother, many years ago before i knew either of them, were treated for severe depression and hospitalized (at different times as a result of them going through divorces.

MadGiant

http://www.seanet.com/~raines/mental.html

http://www.jwfacts.com/

Take care,

Ismael

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JW Apologists please tell me where your God was when .....

by wobble in

during the dark days of the second world war , the monsters that ran a concentration camp decided to hang a child.. they hung the poor little chap so that it took half an hour for him to die, all the while making the other inmates look into the face of the child.. where was your god then ?

was he not strong enough to do anything or did he just not care ?.

if the first then he is a very weak god, if the second then,.

MadGiant

Then again:

Exodus 33:20

There shall no man see me, and live.

John 1:18

No man hath seen God at any time.

John 6:46

Not that any man hath seen the Father.

1 Timothy 1:17

Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.

1 Timothy 6:16

Whom no man hath seen nor can see.

1 John 4:12

No man hath seen God at any time.

Looks like the guy have Multiple Personality Disorder or Alzheimer’s desease

Take care,

Ismael

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JW Apologists please tell me where your God was when .....

by wobble in

during the dark days of the second world war , the monsters that ran a concentration camp decided to hang a child.. they hung the poor little chap so that it took half an hour for him to die, all the while making the other inmates look into the face of the child.. where was your god then ?

was he not strong enough to do anything or did he just not care ?.

if the first then he is a very weak god, if the second then,.

MadGiant

“If God really wanted to stop someone. Can he?

Personally? Yes.

But since the Bible, (and the basis of this debate) - says that, “No man may see God and yet live…”

It probably wouldn’t be a good idea.

Since God lives in Heaven. And God created the Sun.

If he came here personally to stop a murder of a child… he would in the process scorch half the earth. (And please. Don’t say prove it. I’m debating on the Christian view of God and the Bible.)” – Confucius

I am neither a scholar nor a witness but, Sorry but I disagree; with all due respect. Its looks like many have seen that creature

Genesis 12:7

And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Genesis 17:1

And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him....

Genesis 18:1

And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre.

Genesis 26:2

And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of.

Genesis 26:24

And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not.

Genesis 32:30

And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Genesis 35:9

And God appeared unto Jacob again, when he came out of Padanaram, and blessed him.

Genesis 48:3

And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan.

Exodus 3:16

The LORD God ... appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you.

Exodus 4:5

That they may believe that the LORD God ... hath appeared unto thee.

Exodus 6:3

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob....

Exodus 24:9-11

Then went up Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. And they saw the God of Israel ... They saw God, and did eat and drink.

Exodus 33:11

And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend.

Exodus 33:23

And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts.

Numbers 14:14

For they have heard that thou Lord art among this people, that thou Lord art seen face to face.

Deuteronomy 5:4

The Lord talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire.

Deuteronomy 34:10

And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face.

Judges 13:22

And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.

1 Kings 22:19

I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

Job 42:5

I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.

Psalm 63.2

To see thy power and they glory, so as I have seen thee in the sanctuary.

Isaiah 6:1

In the year that King Ussiah died, I saw, also, the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up.

Isaiah 6:5

For mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.

Ezekiel 1:27

And saw ... the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward....

Ezekiel 20:35

And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

Amos 7:7

The LORD stood upon a wall made by a plumbline, with a plumbline in his hand.

Amos 9:1

I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, smite the lintel of the door, that the posts may shake.

Habakkuk 3:3-5

God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran .... He had horns coming out of his hand.

Matthew 18:9

Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

Take care,

Ismael

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So after a month on here...I would like JW lurkers to read as well.

by Aussie Oz in

i learn: the watchtower society's first president was not ct russell, that he was into pyramids, that rutherford hijacked his little religion and turned it into a powerhouse for publishing, that he liked sly grog, had 2 cadillacs to al capones 1, was a bully, and had cancer of the bum, that over all the years they can't make up their mind between new and old light, that the governing body dont even consult the bible, that they had at least one gay g/b member, manipulate prophecy, set dates and blame the flock, invented disfellowshipping just after critizing the catholics for excomunication, avoid taxes, lie on the stand, joined the u.n, own billions of dollars worth of ny, trade stocks and shares, tried be friends with hitler, condoned bribery in mexico, let the flock think they were resticted by the mexican govt, let mallawians die for nothing, keep watering down the blood policy, whitwash their own history, have secret books to help child custody battles, hides criminals, runs heretic witch hunts, spys, has two watchtower mags, supported swaggert in court, lies, controls minds, protects pedophiles, punishes victims, tears families apart, is anti education, is practically run by lawyers, has more corporations than wallstreet it seems, promote wt lit as part of the bible, supported racial segregation in the south, policed the bedroom, that the bible and preaching work are a front for a massive, giant megalomaniacal malevolent publishing house.

that none of this is unsupported lies!.

and to think that a month or so ago, i thought the only dirt on them might have been being a little to harsh on shunning.. i feel sick.

MadGiant

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I feel so down :(

by creativhoney in

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MadGiant

I'm Fine

A farmer named Clyde had a car accident. In court, the trucking company's fancy lawyer was questioning Clyde .

"Didn't you say, at the scene of the accident, 'I'm fine,'?" asked the lawyer.

Clyde responded, "Well, I'll tell you what happened. I had just loaded my favorite mule, Bessie..."

"I didn't ask for any details", the lawyer interrupted. "Just answer
the question. Did you not say, at the scene of the accident, 'I'm fine!'?"

Clyde said, "Well, I had just got Bessie into the trailer and I was driving down the road....."

The lawyer interrupted again and said, "Judge, I am trying to establish the fact that, at the scene of the accident, this man told the Highway Patrolman on the scene that he was just fine. Now several weeks after the accident he is trying to sue my client. I believe he is a fraud. Please tell him to simply answer the question."

By this time, the Judge was fairly interested in Clyde 's answer and said to the lawyer, "I'd like to hear what he has to say about his favorite mule, Bessie".

Clyde thanked the Judge and proceeded. "Well as I was saying, I had
just loaded Bessie, my favorite mule, into the trailer and was driving her down the highway when this huge semi-truck and trailer ran the stop sign and smacked my truck right in the side. I was thrown into one ditch and Bessie was thrown into the other. I was hurting, real bad and didn't want to move. However, I could hear ole Bessie moaning and groaning. I knew she was in terrible shape just by her groans. Shortly after the accident a Highway Patrolman came on the scene. He could hear Bessie moaning and groaning so he went over to her. After he looked at her, and saw her fatal condition, he took out his gun and shot her between the eyes.

Then the Patrolman came across the road, gun still in hand, looked at me and said, "How are you feeling?"

"Now what would you say?"

Take care,

Ismael

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insignificance and arrogance

by Aussie Oz in

this evening the wife and i went for a walk on the beach, something that never fails to make me feel small and insignificant.

i stand on the edge of this huge island called australia looking out to the curve of the horizon.

this is a small planet, floating in its own blue atmosphere, floating in our tiny galaxie, in its own little solar system, in its slightly larger section of the unmeasurable universe.. we are as tiny, even tinier than a fine grain of sand in the universe, we are, essentialy, nothing.

MadGiant

Oz

Take care,

Ismael

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insignificance and arrogance

by Aussie Oz in

this evening the wife and i went for a walk on the beach, something that never fails to make me feel small and insignificant.

i stand on the edge of this huge island called australia looking out to the curve of the horizon.

this is a small planet, floating in its own blue atmosphere, floating in our tiny galaxie, in its own little solar system, in its slightly larger section of the unmeasurable universe.. we are as tiny, even tinier than a fine grain of sand in the universe, we are, essentialy, nothing.