They are both frauds and morons but so are the bulk of their followers who don't even notice the discrepancy.
villabolo
i have asked a salient question.
i will leave the answer to your judgement.. look, the may 1 watchtower on page 27 considers the question "did king hezekiah really build a tunnel into jerusalem?".
in their answer, the society replies, "the carbon - 14 tests we carried out on organic material within the plaster of the siloam tunnel, and uranium-thorium dating of stalactities found in the tunnel, date it conclusively to hezekiah's era.
They are both frauds and morons but so are the bulk of their followers who don't even notice the discrepancy.
villabolo
if a lot of us write a letter to him, do you think that might wake him up?
i don't think one or two letters will work, but a lot?
that would be something, for him to wake up and then be expelled from bethel.. yay or nay?.
Letters, especially many letters, will simply reinforce his beliefs.
villabolo
1. it ruins people lives and spirit.
I HATE PATHOLOGICALLY LYING MINDF*****S WHO STEAL YOUR LIFE AWAY!
just put your handle in a post on this thread.. hb.
VILLABOLO
posted by greg staffordat 3:58 amsunday, november 30, 2008hello!
welcome to "watching the ministry.
" my name is greg stafford.
"I have heard of complete snow-jobs though so I mean it's possible they could just tell him why and not listen to anything he says afterwards."
I wasn't listened to in my JC or appeal. They made no attempt to show me why I was wrong. They just repeated the WTs' stock phrases. I believe my case is typical.
roll call, just as it is written i am not afraid what can man do to me.
my name is shane draney i live in ogden utah, i am supposed to be going to the roy city congregation but i am not going to so there!
but you never know since i was raised in it, its been hard to shed drinking the cool aid.. .
"Hi. Dick Hertz here. I was disfellowshipped for fornication with several elder's wives."
Now is that a real name or a bad pun?
villabolo
roll call, just as it is written i am not afraid what can man do to me.
my name is shane draney i live in ogden utah, i am supposed to be going to the roy city congregation but i am not going to so there!
but you never know since i was raised in it, its been hard to shed drinking the cool aid.. .
Come on leprechaun it's like coming to a costume party. It's simply traditional to wear that mask.
As far as the GB being harmless I think it's simply a matter of how much you irritate them. Keep in mind that recently they have ramped up their hatemongering propaganda against us. It only takes one unbalanced JW out of a hundred to be inspired by that Nazi-esque organization and do something nasty to one of us evil "apostates".
in the ble book "life - how did it get here?
by evolution or by creation?
" on page 203 you can see a picture of a mamooth with a note: frozen mamooth found in siberia ... still had grass in his mouth and in his stomach .... was frozen immediately ....".
SCIENCE AND EARTH HISTORY: THE EVOLUTION/CREATION CONTROVERSY by Arthur N. Strahler is one of the best books on the subject and it mentions the wooly Mammoths and other creationist myths. Well worth the price.
Villabolo
34 do not think i came to put peace upon the earth; i came to put, not peace, but a sword.
35 for i came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law.
36 indeed, a mans enemies will be persons of his own household.
"The circumstances and structure of the modern Witnesses and early Christiantiy are so far removed from each other hisorically that any comparisons in regards to "controlling" and "manipulating" are rather pointless imo. These are very different experiences. This is not to say that early Christiainty didn't have it's share of things that by todays standards would never be accepted in society. It sure did. But to take these negative aspects out of their historical context and say "it's just like the Watchtower!" is a bit over the top imo."
I disagree drew. Primitive Christianity and any modern fundamentalist spinoff are like poisonous plants, perhaps growing in different kinds of (social) soil but having something deadly in common. One can truly say that JWs are like primitive Christianity in its exclusivist family bashing essence regardless of what else may be different. So there are differences and similarities but the similarities are what kills us.
i was raised as a j dub since i was a little girl.
i'm 22 now and i'm still scared of those damn birds.
i got baptized when i was ten so it was beat hard in me that the birds were going to eat all the wicked people.
Loosie, you were henpecked?
I remember my mother used to work at a chicken farm way back in the days when they were uncaged and loose on a floor. I was about three years old and she brought me to her work where I got to meet chickens for the first time. To me they looked like huge (half my size) aliens bobbing up and down, the whole flock of them surrounding me. Boy was I terrified.