I was always fascinated by the subliminal images of the WT...WHY ARE THERE
JustHuman14
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Author of the book "J.W.s and the hour of darkness" Darek Barefoot speaks up on the conference call concerning subliminal images in the Watchtower lit.
by koolaid-man indarek barefoot, author of the book "jehovah's witnesses and the hour of darkness" will be one of our quests on the six screens conference call on saturday june 6,2009 at 7 p.m.est.
darek barefoot, a former jehovah's witness was ostracized from the organization for trying to expose the truth about the occultic influence in the watchtower organization.
his book documents the existence of disguised, or "subliminal"images in watchtower illustrations, and further demonstrated that these images were occultic, being drawn from witchcraft and demonology.
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Why does WT likes so much to use Ancient Israel?Do they really follow that?
by JustHuman14 inwe all know the obsescion of the wt using israel.
god's people did this and that so we are the new "chosen"ones like isreal and we follow the same example.. here are some things that the old israel was doing and the wt does not:.
1.circumciscion, from the 8th day of the child.
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JustHuman14
We all know the obsescion of the WT using Israel. God's people did this and that so we are the new "chosen"ones like Isreal and we follow the same example.
Here are some things that the Old Israel was doing and the WT does not:
1.Circumciscion, from the 8th day of the child. It was an obligation to do that for an Israelite, but JW's accuse the rest of Christian religions that they have infant baptism. It was obvious that God wanted them to pass their faith, even though the child at the end wouldn't follow.
2.Clergy class. There was a clergy class in Israel and they were getting paid!!!But WT accuses other Christians religions the same thing that they accept for Israel!!!
3. Israel had army to protect their land from enemies. Again they accept that but they condemn others for doing that.
I just wrote e few points here and I'm waiting your comments on that. Also the WT says that they are not like the rest of us since they are moral and keep their congregation clean.
But here we have another major issue. God gave many laws to Israel, that included fornication, adultery, sex with animals, stealing, lying. So if the "chosen"people of God, the Israelites were facing exactly the same problems like the rest of the surrounding nations what makes then JW's so different from the others?
JustHUMAN14 formerly known justhuman
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Topics for discussion with JWs - part 3: Homosexual animals...
by Albert Einstein ingod hates homosexuality very very much ... right?.
being wicked homosexual ... you are to be destroyed in armageddon ... right?.
people were created by god as heterosexual, but some are today homosexual as a result of imperfection - punishment for disobedience of adam a eve..... but why there is so much homosexuality among god created animals?
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JustHuman14
The point is the all nature is under the bondage of sin. So at the end of the day God will forgive our sins, since Jesus came for the sinners...this is how I understand homosexuality....but in JW perspective view they cannot explain, exacty they cannot explain why did God created flesh eating animals, in the past(dynasauros)and the animals we have now on earth, since many are cannibalistic
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Monthly Reports on studies???
by Lillith26 inok, so i've been doing my homework on the average practices of your reg pioneer and am trying to find out exactly how much of my personal information was "reported" by my ex-study friend, and exactly where it went and why they didn't ask for my permission first!
now i do get that who ever i was studing with/being converted by, would need to know my adress in order to get my place (as an avon rep a few years ago i kept a list of my clients details to deliver their items) and would likely keep a list of a few questions i had to better prepare for the next discussion we have, but why would it be necessary to pass my "private" information on to and elder and then on again to somewhere else from there every week/month?????.
i have seen a 'blank' version of these report cards (ministrygallery.com) and yeah iam somewhat pissed off!!!
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JustHuman14
they have the usual report that fill your name, what are you studying, and how many times the moth yhey study
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Is there scientific evidence for an afterlife? This video thinks so...
by middleman inany thoughts on this?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvrrjvm4t8a&feature=related.
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JustHuman14
Good one...since I left JW's I can examine of all the options available out there...that is the gift of freedom
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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall
by Hobo Ken inthis is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.
he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.
this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.
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JustHuman14
I will hear this later on. I GOT my judical commitee on tape!!!
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Does this site only make you angrier?
by homeschool inhubby says this site is making me obsessed, in a way that's making me angrier and angrier about jw's.
it's been almost every single day that i read a thread that seriously gets under my skin or makes me sick about them.
he's right, there's a lot on here that will only fuel my fire and help me to go into an angry spiral instead of bettering my life and forgetting about all the stuff i hate about the witnesses.
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JustHuman14
I have gone through this stage. Now I love this side and I got really nice friends here
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Watchtower library for sale
by cherry inwe have been clearing out my j.w.s mothers house and have extensive library dating back to the 1940's and prior.
we would like to sell these as we must fund her deteriorating care.
anyone interested or have any idea who may want these.
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JustHuman14
can you give us a list of what you have? In my library I got all Booze Jo's books, but I will keep them as proof how lunatic he was, and that the WT is a bogus cult.
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O how life changes after 5hr jc...thank simon for my jwd friends!!!!
by oompa inthank simon not god...started to say thank god....trying to avoid that like saying "in the truth"...."worldy"....those two are hard to break........but still.....giving up on what was a good marriage is a bitch....and i am not done yet....some of my now close jwd friends had mates that came out pretty fast.......some not.......i am of the not variety.
the one in thing one out is such a tightrope to walk and it takes a toll on both partners.
i think she would be so much happier without me...but she really loves me deeply.....unfortunately she also has the false hope her prayers will be answered and i will serve jah again........damm this is tough......thanks all...esp st. ann...i called you today, but no answer...did not leave message.
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JustHuman14
Oompa I'm so far way and we can't get together in bar and have a lot of beers. And when I mean a lot I mean A LOT!!! Once I got drunk(I was a JW) I was playing guitar in band(wordly associates!!!) At the night I can't recall how many beers I had. I don't recall what time we finished, and most of all how did I get home 100kilometers back!!! I woke up in my bed at the afternoon and I was looking for my car, my guitars, and microphone. Our drummer drove me home with my car and he call me later to see how I was...
I know how is the feeling that the other half is not responding. Anyhow be around I enjoy your posts, and hope we meet one day
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does anybody remember "marking?"
by stillin infor a while there was this arrangement, based on 2thess:3:14, wherby a talk was given on the service meeting describing a dangerous influence in the congregation, and reference was made to that scripture, thereby indicating to the congregation that this threat exists here, and that you should distance yourselves from anybody fitting that description.
frankly, it bothered me because even if somebody didn't know who was really being referred to, they felt like they might, so the congregation formed little fractures of suspicion.
i wrote to the society because of this divisive effect (that i'm sure wasn't the intended effect; creating a phantom "marked man," breaking up the unity in the cong...etc.).
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JustHuman14
I do remember "marking" it was so good to see how Jehovah kept the congregation "clean".....