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  Who have you lost?

  by alamb in

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  i wonder if we each put up who we lost from our lives and how long ago if it would be a testament to those who might find this thread and think.

  the absurdity.. my parents: 12 years.

  my brother: 12 years (he is now married).

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  JustHuman14

  Friends, relatives...the good thing is that my best friend is out from the cult so I didn't care much
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  Governing Body member had Nervous Breakdown due to Bethel pressures!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  taken from his experience in the 1984 watchtower.. 1934 karl klien {governing body} had a nervous breakdown after being at bethel many years.

  baptized at 12 he didn't go door to door till he was 18 and serving as an elder!

  at bethel he very honestly mentions the pressures that led to his breakdown.

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  I hope they all die and get rid of them...
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  I am looking for doctrines and teachings that cannot be probed by a Jehovah Witness using the bible alone.

  by MadGiant in

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  i am looking for doctrines and teachings that cannot be probed by a jehovah witness using the bible alone.. .

  tace care,.

  ismael.

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  Actually you take a subject and turn it exactly the opposite. I'll give you a few examples to see what I mean:

  1. JW's believe there is no soul. So we have soul

  2.JW's say there is no Trinirty: God is Triunion

  3.JW's say that when you die you vanished: There is life after death

  4.JW's say that the Early Chuch lasted for 150 years only: Apostolic Church never ceased to exist

  5. JW's say that Adam and Eve will not resurrect: They will

  6.JW's believe that Soddom and Gommorah will not ressurected: I cannot answer since they haven't make up their minds if the will....

  Justhuman14 formely known justhuman
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  My JW Daughter sends a Letter to us Explaining her Shunning of Me

  by flipper in

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  my wife and i sent my 22 yr.old pioneer witness daughter and her husband a anniversary card and $ 40.00 and flowers the end of april.

  my daughter wrote mrs. flipper and me each our own individual letters thanking us initially for the gifts - and then went into detail as to why she has not spoken to me for over a year and shunned me.. keep in mind as i paraphrase some of the highlights to these letters that the only negative thing i have said about the organization to my daughter in 3 years was to show her the ap news release about the child abuse settlements by the wt society .

  i'll quote parts of the letter to mrs. flipper first :.

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  JustHuman14

  I know Mr.Flipper the feeling. Since you also know my personal situation. Unfortunately for them Organization = Jehovah. I know how is the feeling to be accused for something that is not your fault. It is not our fault that we don't believe in a man made Orgaization, but most of all a false prophet. Most of us in this forum we don't have anything against our relatives and friends that they are JW's. We love them dearly and we feel sorry that we cannot help them to escape from the EVIL Watchtower Society.

  What we hate is the leadership of this brain controled cult end the fact that they are evil, liars, false prophets and they are blood quilty for the loss of innocent lives due to their unhuman policies, either it was neuatrality issue, blood transfussions, organ transplans.

  And just a very small tip since I'm privellaged to have the Original Greek text and can read it and I need no uneducated old fool from Brooklyn to tell me the meaning of the Bible, that was written in Greek, my mother language...

  There is a lot of difference from the English Text to the Hellenic on the matter of shunning. In 1 Corinthians 5:1-13, WT uses the word associate. Well the Greek word is completely different. It is "συναναμυγνισθε", that actually means mixing. But in Greek it is refering for the Holy Communion when it is using this word. The only time that the congregation is mixing together is with Jesus Blood and Flesh since Jesus unites all. So Pauls council was to refuse the sinner to have Communion.

  Since Communion is the ultimate privelage for the Christian, then by forbitting the sinner to have this privelage it is the only way to realize what is missing=JESUS. This is being kept in the Orthodox Apostolic Church for 2000 years. The Church NEVER hates the sinner, only the sin and the Church is a spiritual hospital for the souls of the sinners. No matter what no one is kicked out....Jesus is LOVE and LOVES US ALL

  JustHuman14 formely know justhuman
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  May 15th WT- " Wife's Dedication to Jehovah more Important than Marriage "

  by flipper in

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  i wanted to make just a thread for this statement of mind control as it was very blatant .

  in the may 15th witness only wt under the article "husbands, imitate christ's love !

  " it states, " if you are a christian husband, remember that your wife is also your christian sister.

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  Jehovah=Watchtower...so above all is WT. I told once to my ex-wife, that ''if the Org could stone disfellowshiped persons they would have do it...And you know what: If they told you to cast the first stone YOU would listen to them without doubt....''

  Anyhow nothing new same old yada yada from Brooklyn

  JustHuman14 formely known justhuman
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  The structure of the Organization keeps people in

  by BonaFide in

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  when i was in bethel, i noticed this, and of course more now.. there are those big buildings in brooklyn, the huge watchtower sign, that big clock facing manhattan.

  everyone in bethel has those haircuts, clothes are pressed.

  everyone is at morning worship.

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  It is FEAR that keeps people in that cult. Fear of loosing your friends, family. Besides WT managed to brainwash them that they cannot have a life outside WT...
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  The cost of going undercover to help family and friends - Is it worth it?

  by BonaFide in

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  so all of you that are trying to help your family and friends as a disassociated person, or disfellowshipped, or sort-of-shunned.. what do you think about getting reinstated or reactivated to help them get out?.

  the time invested would be two meetings a week, about 6 hours total including driving.

  for those on the outside, you would have to get reinstated, so you would need 2-3 months of going to meetings making sure the elders see you and know your intention.. add field service in there.

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  JustHuman14

  I was innactive for 6 years...I try to help my family, it didn't worked at all. And at the end of the day my wife turned me 2 times to the "elders"for apostasy. The second time I really gave them a strike. I wanted ANSWERS regarding their chronology, false prophesies, the dark history of Russell, the way they mistranslated the Bible and specially the Greek text, since we are Greeks...

  No I couldn't stand them for a SINGLE MINUTE...NO WAY...Do you know why?

  Because they are false prophets, liars and Devil is the Father of lie, and Antichrists. Because WT has RUINED my life in all subjects. Education, carreer, my childhood years, took way my family, my children, everything that I loved. Because I suffer for their "neutrality"issue and as a result of this I cannot get a good job. I will NOT go back because my best friend had a serious psycological problems(due to her fanatic JW dad)and at the end of the day she killed her self.

  No I wouldn't go back NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. Do you know why? Because I need NO LONG TO PRETEND AND BE A CLOWN...I'm me and I'm free...

  I wouldn't give not a single minute of my freedom to those lunatics in Brooklyn and be a slave of a fuc*ing mutli corporate American Cult.... Most of all I found JESUS, and He is inviting me to be a friend of Him. He is asking me to take His Flesh and Blood and be with Him in the Kindom of Heavens. I found the Holy Orthodox Apostolic Church, that is being around for 2000 years and it was under my nose, and I would never leave Jesus just to be in a lunatic house called WT society. As for my family and friends I did my best to help them. In my case NO ONE helped me to get out from that cult. Their history, false prophesies, double standarts, flip flop doctrines, was more than enough to tell me: TIME TO GO.... The only one can help a JW to leave WT it is no one but the person it self. Somenone must opens the mind to see what the hell is happening there and the door will open for freedom...NO HELP IS NEEDED JustHuman14 formely known justhuman
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  ...Are Jehovah`s Witness`s more interested in Truth?..OR...

  by OUTLAW in

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  are jehovah`s witness`s more interested in truth?..or..defending the wbt$????????????

  ?........................................................outlaw.

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  JustHuman14

  Can a brainwashed person, a robot be interested for the truth?
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  Bethel reductions in Europe

  by Lost-In-Translation in

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  2. friends

  perhaps this has been discussed before, but at the extjforo.com (the spanish ex-witness website) there has been a lot of discussion of the governing body's decision to either close or severely reduce bethel homes in europe - in particular spain.

  there was even a letter sent to all congregations in spain explaining the situation.

  bethalites are being asked to leave - they are not even getting other assignments.

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  JustHuman14

  Money money.... always funny...in the Watchtower World....

  A slide change on ABBA's song...

  I hope they drain out from cash and disappear from the face of the earth, those old fools in Brooklyn
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  Letter from Spanish Branch regarding Governing Body's decision

  by Lost-In-Translation in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the spanish branch office sent a letter to all congregations in spain explaining the governing body's decision to stop all printing, storing and shipping of literature in spain.

  the spanish government recently ruled that all bethalites are entitled to a pension after having worked at bethel for many years.

  the ruling of the government sent the governing body scrambling.

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  JustHuman14

  What a shame...that is only I can say...