Bread sauce, bucketloads and bucketloads of bread sauce.
Anyone having brussels sprouts with their xmas dinner, you should really have put them on to boil by now!
ig.
what do you look forward to?.
tom and jerries?.
egg nog.
Bread sauce, bucketloads and bucketloads of bread sauce.
Anyone having brussels sprouts with their xmas dinner, you should really have put them on to boil by now!
ig.
In When You're Gone, by Brian Adams and Mel C (aka Sporty Spice)
Real lyrics: ...Oh, this is torture, this is pain, feels like I'm gonna go insane...
I heard: ...Our best friend's daughter lives in Spain, feels like I'm gonna go insane...
Quite why the their best friend's daughter's residence in Spain was causing them to loose their sanity I never did work out.
Iggy the fish.
well my favorite simpsons saying are:.
homer: "d-oh" and "woo-hoo".
bart: "aye, caramba".
Braking to avoid hitting a deer on the road,
Homer: Doh!
Marge: A deer!
Lisa: A female deer!
...and then anything said by side show bob (see my sig.)
ig.
i'm making it official.
i'm addicted!
someone once said to me that admitting it is solving half of the problem, and i can live with the other half... lol.
Tea.
the deeper you look into, clearer picture is emerging that god had not any input in these writings at all.
there are many verses, even whole passages which exist in some editions and in some they do not.. he evidently didn't supervised writers or copyists and we have plenty of evidences of that, his name in nt included.. since gospels of peter or thomas are not regarded as valuable and important documentations of jesus' life, only one conclusion comes to my mind.. as a moral guide the bible is an excellent book, written by... men!.
highly recommended!.
The real (but now sadly missing) first page of the bible:
Dedicated to my darling Betty.
This book is entirely fictional. Any similarity of the characters in this book to real persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental.
(Any posters/lurkers from the UK should recognise that joke from the TV comedy series Red Dwarf.)
Iggy the fish.
im curious as to what some of you do for a living.
im an office manager for a communications co. in central califonia.
edited by - rubytuesday on 8 november 2002 17:47:45edited by - rubytuesday on 8 november 2002 17:48:25.
Crystal grower, 1/1000th as interesting as it sounds. Busily doing nothing, working the whole day through, trying to find lots of things not to do Busily doing nothing, isn't it just a crime, I'd like to be unhappy, but I never do have the time.
IG
i would appreciate some serious discussion and comments on signs of the last days.
i've already run a search for previous posts on the subject, and most of what i found was silly, sarcastic, name calling, etc, but nothing of any real value.
i would really like some information, links even, for some valuable information on the subject.
Whenever I heard about wars on the news, I'd think "It's a sign of the end" (TM), and then whenever I heard about efforts toward peace on the news, I'd think about that "Whenever it is they are saying peace and security" (TM) (or whatever the quote is) thing, and I'd again think it was a sign of the end. EVERY political event, positive and negative was spun as a sign of the end comming. Then, I seem to remember people (non-JW) being nasty to me was "the love of the greater number cooling off" (TM) or persecution by the devil, and then other people being nice to me was either the devil trying to stumble me by being as "cunning as a serpent" (TM) or (and this is the cult spinning at it's most bizarre imo) "A tribute to Jehovah's marvelous creative powers that, even in this Devil controlled system, people still retain some of the love that was put into Adam and Eve". I swear that words to that effect once appeared in the Watchtower, I think they were trying to explain why, if this system was really devil controlled, we weren't all eating/murdering/torturing each other all the time.
War AND peace both signs of the end? Kindness AND cruelty both signs of the end? Hats off to the WT for getting us to swallow them all! It's mind control at it's most subtle and brilliant imho. And it's not at all easy or straightforward to get rid of it from my mind. B*STARDS!!! (sorry for the language folks)
If I think about them for a good long time, the things that make up the so-called composite sign of the end (as the WT spins it anyway, the Matthew bits, the Revelation bits and all the other bits) are so vague and self contradictory that ANYTHING could be interpreted as "proof" that we are approaching the great tribulation at break-neck speed.
Laying my cards on the table, I'm no longer a believer in God, at least not the God of the bible. However, if I still were, and he created me with the reasoning powers I posess, and if it was in his mind to end this system and he was going to give me a sign, I'd expect it to be absolutely clear and unambiguous and in no way open to interpretation. Otherwise it's an unfair test, and I wouldn't want to believe in an unfair or unjust God.
These are just my opinions, and thoughts that help me when I find myself worrying about this issue. I don't expect them to work for everyone but maybe there's something in them you can use.
Iggy the fish.
hulloo all,.
to cut a very long and oft told story (on boards like this at any rate) very short, i was partially raised a jw (tho' never baptised), and now i've reached the stage where my very modest collection of dub literature must be disposed of.
it's lived in a box in attics and high shelves in various houses for the last 12 years during which time i've been sh*t scared to go near it, but equally scared to get rid of it for fear of seriously pissing off his almightyness up in the heavens.. well, over the past year i've been through a few of the usual "eye openers", coc & the gentile times thingumygig whatsit doodah, and evolution books too.
Well, so far a burning it is. Heh Heh Heh Heh. Thanx guys!
hulloo all,.
to cut a very long and oft told story (on boards like this at any rate) very short, i was partially raised a jw (tho' never baptised), and now i've reached the stage where my very modest collection of dub literature must be disposed of.
it's lived in a box in attics and high shelves in various houses for the last 12 years during which time i've been sh*t scared to go near it, but equally scared to get rid of it for fear of seriously pissing off his almightyness up in the heavens.. well, over the past year i've been through a few of the usual "eye openers", coc & the gentile times thingumygig whatsit doodah, and evolution books too.
Hulloo all,
To cut a very long and oft told story (on boards like this at any rate) very short, I was partially raised a JW (tho' never baptised), and now I've reached the stage where my very modest collection of dub literature must be disposed of. It's lived in a box in attics and high shelves in various houses for the last 12 years during which time I've been sh*t scared to go near it, but equally scared to get rid of it for fear of seriously pissing off His Almightyness up in the heavens.
Well, over the past year I've been through a few of the usual "eye openers", COC & the gentile times thingumygig whatsit doodah, and evolution books too. I'm now a "born again atheist" I suppose you would have to call it, and very happy with my decision. The only issues still unresolved are: I feel sorry for mum still chasing that dream of paradise (come on folks, it was a beautiful dream, if you could bend your brain around 5 billion people being slaughtered of course!); and I'm still angry at dad for letting mum take me to meetings when I was young or not even asking me why I was going; and lastly, I (like many of you, from what I read in your posts) have missed out on that whole socialisation thing that people seem to go through in their childhoods and early adulthoods, and I'm finding it hard work to develop those "friendmaking" skills as an adult. I suppose it's why, at 10:30 on Saturday night, I'm sat in front of my computer screen whinging about my parents rather than being out down the pub or dancing my socks off at some venue suitable for the purpose of sock loosing dancing.
Forgive the ranting diversion. I feel like burning the books. They are:
Questions Young People Ask, Answers that are guarranteed to make me look like a complete tw*t at school, 1989.
Revelation, its Grand anticlimax is not at hand, 1988.
School and Jehovah's Witnesses pamphlet, (ooohhh, you are getting soooo burned you little b*stard), 1983
Life - How Did It Get to be this shite? By Evolution or by Creation? (Read this book to find out how you can make the worst out of yours!) 1985
You Can('t) Live Forever in Paradise on Earth (I'm looking forward to burning you immensely) 1983
Your Will Be Done On Earth (what the f*ck is this this book going on about? Not really sure how I got this one!) 1958.
Reasoning From the Scriptures (for me, another guide to how to look a complete tw*t in front of people by giving totaly bizarre answers to reasonable religious questions) 1985.
The Bible, God's Word or Man's, 1989.
All Scripture is Inspired yada yada yada, 1990.
If any of these books might fill a gap in your collections (naturally for the purposes of using the information contained therein against their originators) then I'll listen to suggestions. Otherwise they're going up in smoke - except for the plastic covers. I'll listen to any suggestions of best burning techniques. I have a fuel burning stove (usually a coal fire) which should do the job.
On a final note, in my continuing efforts to move from being a social catterpillar to being a social butterfly, is it worth my while trying to get together with some ex-jw persons? As I was never baptised, I feel a bit of a fraud even posting here. But I seriously believed (up 'till a few months ago) that armageddon was about to happen any minute, even though I hadn't been near a Kingdom Hall for the prevous decade, I hate that (*&^$)(&* organisation. I live in Milton Keynes, in England.
I hope you are all well,
Iggy the fish
do you blame your parents for bringing you up as witnesses?.
do you tink they sould have known better, or do you feel sorry for them?.
i used to think how lucky i was to be born into a family that had the truth.. now i wonder, how could my parents have fallen fot it?.
Yes, because they deserve their fair share of the blame.
I blame my parents for having an unhappy marriage which lead to my Mother finding comfort in the JWs. I blame my Mother for falling for the rubbish she was told and exposing me to it and telling me that my Father was soon going to die at Armageddon. I blame my Father for NEVER ONCE talking to me about why I was going to meetings or trying to stop me (is this normal for the non-JW parent?). I don't know which parent's action makes me more angry.
I also blame myself and the WBTS, but this thread was about parents so I'll restrict my rant to them.
Iggy the fish.