One more thought: While EOM complains about the increasing tolerance toward gays as being a sign of worsening times, one might not think that way if one happens to be gay. One of the greatest improvements in modern human society is the acceleration of human rights, particularly for minorities, women and gay/lesbian and transgender folks. Yep, they're all folks and deserve the compassion and civil rights that have traditionally been reserved only for certain strata.
Cadellin
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Are the Dubbers still preaching the end is very close?
by dogon inwe use to joke around and use the line from danny deveto on romancing the stone where he is asking michael dougless when he is coming back, soon very soon as a way to make fun of the believers who would keep telling us on stage the end was soon very soon.
they started this after the 75 and 2000 failure.
what are they saying now?.
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Are the Dubbers still preaching the end is very close?
by dogon inwe use to joke around and use the line from danny deveto on romancing the stone where he is asking michael dougless when he is coming back, soon very soon as a way to make fun of the believers who would keep telling us on stage the end was soon very soon.
they started this after the 75 and 2000 failure.
what are they saying now?.
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Cadellin
The fact of the matter is that human history ebbs and flows--crops flourish and peace prevails, then famine strikes and the plague breaks out, wars start and stop and start again. Nevertheless, a close examination of the past century reveals it to be one of the most peaceful and prosperous in human history.
Yes, millions are in poverty and millions of children die each year of preventable causes--there's no getting around that tragedies exist. But there are 7 billion people on the planet, more than ever before, which is why you need to look at percentages of total population instead of straight numbers. The very fact that the human population has skyrocketed over the past century attests to the prevalence of food, medicine and general safety in comparison to past ages. It took humans tens of thousands of years to hit a billion--why? Because war, disease and famine tended to kill almost as many people as were born in any given year. Not anymore.
Further, there's never been as much motivation to alleviate human suffering than in the past several decades, which is why when famine strikes, for instance, in Africa, the numbers that die are nowhere near as staggering as in past centuries, even though the number of people affected might be very great. A very interesting place to visit is the UN website, where the Millenium Goals report can be found. While there are still staggering problems facing our species, over the last 20 years, more than a billion MORE people have improved water and sewage, poverty has decreased dramatically, and many communicable diseases, including malaria and AIDS, are moving downward. Ironically, there are more obese people on the planet right now than hungry--about a billion vs. 900 million hungry.
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Very "timely" WT information for my research of Hebrew and Greek Scriptures...
by EndofMysteries inthe nov 1st, 2009 page 20. .
in summary, it's not needed to understand or compare the ancient hebrew and greek to our translations.
it can be "a very difficult task", "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", i suppose so, if finding the mistakes in the nwt.
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I believe the NWT is based mostly on the Masoretic, but in places the translators chose to go with the wording from other sources--its been a while since I read anything on this so I stand to be corrected.
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Cadellin
I`ve never seen a broken dinner
You should come to my house sometime... Welcome, Abe--awesome name!
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Anyone here on their own found a bible most true to original language?
by EndofMysteries inokay, let alone which scrolls it was translated from, in reading a hebrew scriptures old testament interlinear, i am not too happy.
it shows the hebrew word, the english translation, then the phrase in it's bible.
genesis 5:2 - he created them male and female, and blessed them and called them adam in the day they were created.
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Cadellin
I believe I remember Leo suggesting the New Jerusalem Bible in a previous post and given her scholarly contributions here, I'd consider that translation as worthy of merit.
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Jephthah's Daughter
by cantleave ini have read somewhere that jephthah's daughter did not really go into temple service but was a victim of ritual sacrifice.
the bible says that after weeping over her virginity that the maidens would visit her annually.
how could they visit her if she was killed?.
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Cadellin
Cantleave: Check out this thread which has a pretty interesting discussion of the topic. Basically, it is a NWT rendering that makes it sound like the Jewish women would "commend" Jephthah's daughter once a year--other translations render the word "lament over," meaning they annually commemorated the day of her death.
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January 2009 Awake - Where is the quote source listed?
by AdaMakawee ini just took my dog out for a walk and found an awake laying on the ground, all wet where someone threw it.
so i picked it up because i thought it would be worth a few laughs.
i'm absolutely stunned by the amount of statements they make, statitstics they quote without naming a source.
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Cadellin
Good thread--this is pathological with the WTBS
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Assembly Call: PLEASE Come Back & Help Us Out---Ministerial Servants & Elders!
by minimus ini was told they were practically begging those elders and servants who are no longer "being used" to help carry the load once again.
these people are unbelievable!.
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I think there are many who do not 100% believe everything they're told to accept.
You know it. Or, like my husband, deliberately choose to look the other way
Welcome, misery, great to hear to from you. Please tell us more if and when you're ready.
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Greetings
by AggieNostic infirst new topic for me.. i have observed this site for about 4 years.
haven't been to a meeting since oct 2005. definitely feel jws are a high control group that mirrors many of the definitions of a cult.. i was raised as a witness since age 5, left at age 38, now 43. happily married to a wonderful woman for 24 years, except for 1 year of separation when i was failing miserable in a search for my true self - hard to do when you were completely sucked into this religion.
yes, i was a true believer pretty much up into my late 30s.
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Cadellin
Aggie: Welcome--my story is so close to yours except I'm female and didn't get married until late 20s. But we're the same age and our parents sound exactly the same. I'll be interested to hear what led to the blinders falling off. And while Lease's comments re your kids going to college is great, don't think it's too late for you! So many on the forum make a degree their first stop after leaving the Borg. Looking forward to hearing the rest of your story.
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All This Real Estate Development-What Do They Have Up Their Sleeve?
by WalkTall insorry, i put this topic mistakenly under beliefs.
i meant to put it here.. i really can't understand what's going on.
someone mentioned on another thread there is expansion going on at the wallkill farm.
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Cadellin
While Mr. Flipper's idea is provocative and not without merit, I think the $$ is probably just going to printing literature and building KHs in third world countries. If you look at the stats, all the increase is in Africa and other dirt poor places where donations have got to be nil. Yet they're pumping through the literature there and building branches, etc. Plus the donations are down in countries where people actually have a bit of $$--I suspect the WTBS is living off their capital. Just a guess.