Posts by Morbidzbaby

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my lesbian jw relative...sad but true 4-some...and penance

by oompa in

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yeah i thought the 4-some thing would hook some of you guys in lol!.

she is about 24 and has three other gay jw roommates and has for a few years.

virtually everyone knows they are gay.

Morbidzbaby

...They must go through a lot of cucumbers in that house...

Side note: There was a Questions From Readers a little while ago that talked about roommates...how opposite sex roommates would be inappropriate, a worldy roommate would be inappropriate, etc...however, I don't think it even touched on same-sex gay roommates...

I bet the old codgers in Brooklyn are going to be shedding some Noo Light soon... Thing is, the way the world is now, they'd have to ask every single person who was in a roommate situation if they were homosexual! But, then again, they stick their nose into hetersexual couples' sex lives, so why would I think they wouldn't go this far?

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I feel so alone here...

by Pams girl in

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thanks to all who helped me escape my imminemt baptism after 6 years of study.

it was a close call.. ive clearly been labelled spirituallly weak, as nobody has called here to say hi or anything and its been 2 monthes now....their divine justice for me i guess.

i did see my study teacher a while back when she dropped off my memorial invite, and that was after a chat, nothing to do with the wbts...seemed like it was an afterthought on her part.. they all know about my problems with agoraphobia and panic.

Morbidzbaby

Hey Paula,

I have to say, this makes me sad to read how you're feeling. You've always got nice things to say to everyone here and I always enjoy your input. I'm sorry you're suffering inside.

I can relate in some ways. I grew up JW, so I was actually never really close to my non-JW family. And now in my immediate family it's just me and my brother who don't want to be JW's, so it's hard at times to know where the heck you fit. I feel like a square peg trying to fit into this round hole of a world.

I got in touch with an old friend from school awhile back. I guess you could say she was my best friend. A few other posters have mentioned that people grow and change and are not the same. This was true in my case, except it was me who grew and changed and she still acts like she's a teen. I was in constant contact with her for about 2 years. All she really did was use me and then stabbed me in the back. So sometimes leaving someone in the past is a good thing. I'm not saying that this will be your experience, not at all. But be aware that sometimes it's YOU who have changed and you no longer fit with people you knew years ago. It's not a bad thing, really. It actually showed me how far I've come.

As for family, a couple of years ago my dad's side of the family had a reunion after 10 years of everyone going their separate ways. It was nice to see everyone, but part of me felt like an outsider still. Amazingly, once my cousins and some aunts and uncles found out I was no longer an active JW and wanted nothing to do with it, they really came around. I keep in touch with some of my cousins on Facebook and we call and chat once in awhile. I actually apologized for not knowing them better and for missing their milestones growing up (communion, etc). I started explaining about the cult and my mom not allowing me and my brother to get close to family and for the most part, they interrupted and said "Morbidz, you don't have to explain...you think we don't know? Your mom acted like the rest of the family had the plague! We know it wasn't your fault...don't worry about it!". So that was nice to hear...

I guess I'm telling you this because, as someone who had alienated family, I was able to get on the right track with them. Not all of them, mind you, there are still some that I won't associate with because they are just not very good people. But for the most part, I've started getting to know them and I love it. So, if someone who never knew her family personally can do it, you can too. I know you worry they won't understand, but don't be afraid to take the blame in this situation. And then explain. The one thing about family is that they will, for the most part, love you unconditionally. Whereas JW's love you when you're falling in line.

Facebook is a good place to start. As for making new friends, that's still a tough one for me. I don't really have any friends. My best friend is my boyfriend...and he's pretty much my only friend. I have people I work with that I consider acquaintances, but I don't trust easily because I'm the type of person who is a bleeding heart and I will help anyone and everyone if I can...and I end up getting used a LOT. So I'm careful with who I decide to be friends with now. I'd rather be alone than be used and abused, ya know? But there were some good suggestions here... Book clubs, ex-JW meetups, take a class in something you're interested in, find a hobby that you can share with others, etc. If you're still Biblically-inclined, check out some local Bible study groups or Bible discussion groups.

Above all, as hard as it is, try to stay positive. A very big positive thing you have going for you right now is that you escaped a cult before committing to it! That's something to be proud of! That gives you a leg-up on being aware of cult tactics and your eyes are more open then someone who has never had the experience. You have experience to share. Maybe you can help someone else who is heading into the same danger. Even by just talking about it with people, telling them what you know, you can help someone. Someone who, before knowing you, may have listened to the JW's or the Mormons, etc. Just posting here, you can bet you've helped a lot of people...people who don't even post and just lurk and read!

Take it one step, one day, even one hour at a time. It WILL get better. And in the meantime, you have all of us here to support and listen.

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Why is sex suddenly pure and holy after you receive a marriage certificate?

by doubtful in

...but gross and detestable any time before marriage.

if a witness couple who are engaged to one another, decide to express their love toward each other by engaging in sexual intercourse just weeks or even days before they're officially married, they are considered to be loathsome, unclean people.

the witness girl would be seen by others in the hall as a dirty little whore...and the guy would just be thought of as a horny young man who couldn't keep it in his pants.

Morbidzbaby

I had this discussion with my mother awhile back. She tried to give me the JW line about "the first marriage", when really, all Genesis says is Eve was fashioned from Adam's rib and God brought her to him. In other words, it was a "here ya go!" kind of thing. There was no legality involved. "Knowing" your mate was having intercourse. Only later on in the Hebrew scriptures did marriages get introduced (as business arrangements).

I personally think all of this legality stuff is ridiculous. I would much rather live with a man who I consider my husband in my heart and be happy with him and not have a legally binding contract than sign a piece of paper to show everyone else "See??? We really DO love each other!!". In my opinion (now, after having been married and divorced) a legal contract and ceremony cheapens it.

For instance, the man I love doesn't want to get married. Neither do I. But we are madly in love with each other and both have that feeling that "this is it". What more do I need? A piece of paper? A name change (again)? A huge expensive wedding? I don't need any of that. Neither does he. We did agree, however, that if the time comes that we want to be "official" to family and friends, we will do a handfasting/commitment ceremony. Nothing legal, just a gathering of friends and family to celebrate our love for each other. A celebration of love, family, friendship, and hearts joining together. While that is partially what a wedding is, in this case, there would be no legalities binding us together. We'd stay together because we wanted to. But any kind of ceremony is still strictly an "if we feel the need" type thing.

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NEW WEBSITE EXPOSING THE EVILS OF THE WATCHTOWER

by I quit! in

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there is a new website exposing the evils of the watchtower.

it is called "the wet dreams of the watchtower".

it will be hosted by two undercover jehovah's witnesses: bobby betheloid and sammy the circuit overseer.

Morbidzbaby

why not call it the "Six Dreams of the Watchtower"

Or perhaps the "Sex Dreams of the Watchtower"...

I agree with sizemik...It's not a good time unless pandemonium breaks out...

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De-Conversion: Where are you?

by NomadSoul in

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i thought i shared this post made on http://de-conversion.com.. i'm in #6. indifferent.. .

a person de-converts.... 1) loss.

de-convert feels extremely sad, a sense of loss and remorse, struggling to cope with a worldview without a personal deity.

Morbidzbaby

I'm a combination of 2 and 5. I spend a lot of time looking into things, reading, talking, etc. I find my mind was like a dry sponge and as soon as I was given even a drop of knowledge, it just kept wanting to soak up more and more. I love it! However, I find I still can't understand HOW anyone can buy what the WTBTS is trying to sell. And so, in my own way, I try to keep others from getting sucked in and hurt like so many have been. A person is entitled to believe what they want to, but when it borders on completely insane and then spills over into MY life and causes divisions, then I have a problem.

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Does this remind you of any posters?

by JRK in

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http://www.theonion.com/video/autistic-reporter-train-thankfully-unharmed-in-cra,20098/.

jk.

Morbidzbaby

As the mother of an autistic child, I didn't find this humorous in the least. More like "very offensive". 1 in 150 children nowadays is diagnosed with autism in it's many forms. There are a million other things in this world to laugh at. A person who is differently abled is NOT one of them.

I don't know which "poster" here you were referring to, nor do I care. The fact is, in order for this to "remind" you of anyone here, I have to assume you're speaking specifically about a person whom YOU think is "autistic" in that they are mentally challeneged or stupid. Things like this video and this thread only further the assumption that autistic people are dumb or lacking in some way and aren't deserving of common human decency and compassion. By poking fun at someone and saying they resemble someone with autism, you are, in effect, poking fun of the entire autistic community and it's supporters. SHAME ON YOU for drawing such a heartless comparison.

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Pinch me. Am I Dreaming?

by headisspinning in

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i can't even believe what's happened.

i'm really in shock.. without any warning i got an email from my son yesterday afternoon.

"ive been doing a lot of thinking lately, and i have decided i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness.

Morbidzbaby

That's awesome, HIS!! I agree with RADHESYAM, though... If you're going to be blamed for it anyway, then you may as well let your son come and live with you. It's awesome he was able to open up to you and let you know how he is feeling...and it's awesome to know he is thinking for himself! If you do have him live with you, take that time to gently bring up some subjects and find out if it's the restrictiveness of the cult that he is not wanting or if he truly doesn't believe. If he still believes somewhat, then you can go from there. Good luck and again, this is really awesome news! It gives me hope in my own situation.

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What Draws You to a Poster?

by snowbird in

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for me, it's warmth and compassion, being approachable, and not looking down on anyone.. also, taking the time to acknowledge and interact with newbies.. i love those type of posters.. syl.

Morbidzbaby

Usually, kindness and humor... I tend to be drawn to the smartasses cause I'm one as well lol. I also love the intelligent posts that I read quite often around here. And lastly, if someone's situation mirrors my own, even in a small way, I tend to be more attracted to that person's posts...and try to let them know they aren't alone.

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2011 DC Invitation

by LostGeneration in

couple of things i found kind of interesting.

on the front it has the wording "qualify to live in the paradise" or something to that effect.

just another weird thing that jws teach, having to "qualify" for the paradise, based on your works of course.. the back has the image of daniel with the world powers on it, the bottom has a circle with a "?

Morbidzbaby

Good thing we have a bunch of apostate "moles" that are still active in the org (well, good for us, not necessarily for them)... Maybe one of them can fill us in if there's "Noo Light"... This rehashing of Daniel doesn't sit well with me... I think there's another change a-brewin'...

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Such disrespect- Someone desecrated a WT at the laundromat

by keyser soze in

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just in case you're wondering what happens to the magazines after they're left at laundromats..... it was ripped apart, with pages scattered all over the floor.

evidently, someone didn't like what they read..

Morbidzbaby

I throw them away whenever I find them in public. Last one was at a bank...someone had the nerve to leave a WT and Awake rolled up in the little slots beneath the table where you fill out your bank slips (where they usually put brochures and stuff). I grabbed them, tore them in half, and put them in the trash barrel.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a KM in recent years that stated that leaving litteratrash in phone booths and stuff was no longer acceptable because it was a "waste" when they ended up on the ground? I'm quite sure I did read that...maybe Blondie or someone can assist... I tried telling my parents this because they like to "start their time" with phone booths...