Posts by Morbidzbaby

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I cannot believe my father called me to ask this!

by serenitynow! in

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so my father, a jw bum who abandoned us when we were children to be with his pioneer whore, called me tonight and left a message.

this is surprising because i have not seen or spoken to him for a couple of years, other than to leave a message a couple of weeks ago to tell him that i had to hospitalize my sister for being suicidal.. i found out about a week ago that one of his very good friends, a brother whose family used to go to the hall with us and used to be close to when we were children is dying in the hospital after having a couple of strokes and a heart attack.

they've been talking about taking him off of the ventilator for a few days.

Morbidzbaby

Wow, seren, I'm sorry that you have such a rotten person for a "father". Like you, I wouldn't give him another moment of my time.

I actually had grandparents who were cruel to my mom and her sister and treated their kids (my 2 cousins, and myself and my brother) like shit our entire lives. For example, when their "golden" grandkids were visiting, they could open the refrigerator and get whatever they wanted, and grandma wouldn't bat an eyelash. In fact, she encouraged it... "Whatever you want, you know where the fridge is" with a big smile. If we "black sheep" grandkids even dared to ask for a drink, we got a dirty look and "There's water in the sink". Many times I invited them to come and see me sing, tickets were provided free of charge and we would have picked them up and brought them home...they always had some excuse not to go. When my grandfather was in the hospital having bypass surgery, he kept bragging about how "Your cousin so-and-so got straight A's this year!" but always commented on how much I needed to lose weight (I was fucking 10 years old!!).

When grandma died, I felt kind of relieved that she was gone. I cried, but only because of the fact that she was such a fucking BITCH that she never let us get close to her and there was no reason for it whatsoever. I was there when she kicked, but I honestly just wanted to make sure she was really gone. She did tell me she loved me the night she died (I was staying overnight at the hospital with my mom watching over her), but I ignored it and rolled her over to position her and prevent bedsores. I was completely anguished when she died simply because she died without me knowing WHY she treated me the way she did. I got no answers. And that is what hurt. I think I did all that I did for her when she was dying simply because I was hoping she'd give me an answer and regret that she treated me the way she did...like maybe she'd realize that I'm a good person and she fucked up.

Before grandpa died, he had been in a nursing home temporarily. I hadn't seen him in about 5 or 6 years...in that time I had children and had been divorced. You know what he said to me?? More counsel on my weight, and telling me that I need to set the example for my kids so they wouldn't be fat like me. Oh and tsk-tsking me because I got divorced. "When you get married, it's FOR LIFE! You're just like your aunts, getting divorced and breaking up the family". The last day I saw him, I turned to the side and he laughed and said "Gee, do you have another one in there?" and I just turned around and looked him in the eyes and said "NO, I'm just fucking FAT or haven't you figured that out by now??". The next day he had a major heart attack and I refused to go see him in the hospital. He died the following day. I didn't shed a tear for the bastard.

Some people aren't worth helping. Some aren't worth giving your time to in any capacity. Seems like your father is one of them. So let him wallow in his fear and misery. YOU be happy and, in my opinion, you should just forget he even exists. Let him die alone, that's the fate he MADE for himself.

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A heartfelt "Thank You" to Simon, his family and to the all the mods

by Dagney in

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the past few days i've been thinking about how life has changed since leaving the witnesses.

except for just a few, my former friends have been completely replaced by apostates.

who would have ever thought...i sure didn't.

Morbidzbaby

Glad you're having a wonderful Christmas! And yes, I agree, THANK YOU Simon and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

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Some personal thoughts as 2011 comes to a close

by Terry in

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first off, if you are in a safe place inside your head, merry christmas.

i was fortunate to have had childhood christmases in my home growing up.

many born-ins are probably never going to know what they missed.. also.... i am thinking about all the nice, friendly, happy things i've given up for jehovah and it saddens me.

Morbidzbaby

They don't go out after Memorial and "celebrate." They just go home and turn on the TV like every other night. I am not aware of anyone that ever invited their Witness friends over to their home for a special Memorial Evening dinner.

I have to respectfully disagree here. As I got older, more and more JW's would go out to eat and socialize after the Memorial. Some would invite a group back to their home for snacks and association. Others here can tell you that in some congregations, the wine and "bread" would be taken back to the home of one of the elders and enjoyed with cheeses and fruit. There were plenty of us that got together after the Memorial for socializing, whether over finger foods at someone's home, or a full meal at a restaurant. In fact, after my very last Memorial, a group of us that included an elder and his family, a ministerial sevant and his wife, a new "bible study", and some single brothers and sisters all went to a local chain restaurant and stayed out until about 11:30pm enjoying each other's company and talking about the Memorial and other stuff. It was actually a very fun time, lots of laughs and joking, and a "joyous" occasion. I know of quite a few in every congregation I've been in who do at least some little gathering after the Memorial...and I've been in approximately 13 different congregations across the US.

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Merry Christmas to you all!

by Retrovirus in

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it's christmas morning here in victoria, australia, and as usual i'm the first one awake.. hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends!

enjoy!.

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Morbidzbaby

Merry Christmas to all those for whom it is already Christmas

We opened our presents last week...and we're having the ham tonight LOL

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Some personal thoughts as 2011 comes to a close

by Terry in

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first off, if you are in a safe place inside your head, merry christmas.

i was fortunate to have had childhood christmases in my home growing up.

many born-ins are probably never going to know what they missed.. also.... i am thinking about all the nice, friendly, happy things i've given up for jehovah and it saddens me.

Morbidzbaby

Thanks Terry, this was a great post!

Sizemik, this is my first Christmas EVER, so I know how you feel with that. I've been crazy about Christmas since Halloween ended LMAO. I put up the tree right after Thanksgiving dinner, and it's staying up until January 1st. A part of me is sad that I can't share this with my children, although I did send them a letter letting them know I love them and am thinking of them. It's not the same, though.

To those still in for various reasons, it IS difficult to leave with family still in...I know, I've been there. But, for me, I had to weigh the options of staying in and living a lie, posting here on the sly, and being increasingly stressed with the knowledge I now have and the conflicting lifestyle I had to lead. When I finally got so angry at what was being said that I broke down and had an anxiety attack at a meeting, that was my wake-up-and-get-the-hell-out call. Before that, I was out mentally, but physically still going and doing the dance that everyone else wanted me to do. When I realized my health (mental and physical) was being compromised, I headed for the door. I went to one last convention (the Generation Change one) in order to hear the BS with my own ears, and then I quickly made my exit. It wasn't easy, and I've had to sacrifice a relationship with my parents in order to get out, but the ones I've formed since leaving are worth SO MUCH to me, my FREEDOM is worth so much to me... I can only hope maybe one day my parents will join me, but if they don't, I will know my life wasn't wasted living a lie for someone else's benefit.

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untitled

by exwhyzee in

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we hooked up with a family member who is married and in bethel 15+ years.

it's almost too exhausting to go into the details here so i'll condense everything into a few main areas that were talked about over a few days.. bottom line, my wife and i finally let them know that we are not jw's anymore and so far it looks like they aren't going to shun us.

we had a really nice time with them and their witness friends who assumed we were jw's too and couldn't have been nicer.. our bethelite family members had no idea what we had been through at the hands of he elders that was the final shove out of the organization and were in agreement that things were handled badly.

Morbidzbaby

That was an interesting read... I hope that some of what you said stuck with them. Maybe if they ARE experiencing some negativity at Bethel, your words will be key in helping them to wake up and realize that it's organization-wide and not just limited to certain areas or certain JW's.

And don't ever think your time here is up! Sometimes people are busy and can only lurk and not comment, sometimes they feel they have nothing of benefit to say and want to say more then "Hey, that's great!", but don't have the words to do so. Every poster here (with the exception of the absolute loons) has something of value to add to this forum...yourself included. This post was valuable because some of us are in similar situations and it gives us a sort of "template" to go off of when speaking to our own family. Don't ever feel like you are valueless here! You had enough of that in the Watchtower.

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Cigars And Jehovahs Witnesses

by Bangalore in

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cigars and jehovah's witnesses.. http://drschiffman.wordpress.com/2011/12/23/cigars-and-jehovahs-witnesses/.

bangalore.

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Morbidzbaby

Great post! LOL

Amazingly, there was a group of brothers in my congregation who would get together once a month and play poker, complete with cigars...they didn't light them, just bit them. Which, in my opinion, is incredibly stupid. Why waste the money just to bite it and throw it away?

BF smokes cigars once in awhile...he likes to indulge sometimes. His usually cost between $8 and $12 each, depending. I can't imagine spending that much just to bite the damn thing and "look cool" for a poker game with fellow cult members.

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circumcision...sheesh!

by stillin in

i was at the congregation bible study recently (aka "book study") which has been expounding in depth regarding the 1st century's unbelievable resemblance, in organizational terms, to our modern-day governing body and how big decisions are made now.

surprise!

it's exactly like it is supposed to be, according to the bible!.

Morbidzbaby

Regarding Penile Cancer, it is even more rare than male breast cancer. From the American Cancer Society:

Circumcision is the removal of a part or all of the foreskin at birth or later on in life. This practice has been suggested as conferring some protection against cancer of the penis by contributing to improved hygiene. However, the penile cancer risk is low in some uncircumcised populations, and the practice of circumcision is strongly associated with socio-ethnic factors which in turn are associated with lessened risk. The consensus among studies that have taken these other factors into account is that circumcision is not of value in preventing cancer of the penis. It is important that the issue of circumcision not distract the public's attention from avoiding known penile cancer risk factors -- having unprotected sexual relations with multiple partners (increasing the likelihood of human papillomavirus infection) and cigarette smoking.

So there ya go. Nippin' the tip has nothing to do with preventing cancer...it has more to do with other risk factors, INCLUDING not taking care of your dick! Making sure it's clean and free of debris and smegma. Men who develop Phimosis (which is when the foreskin constricts and has a hard time retracting, thus making cleaning difficult) are much less likely to be keeping up with hygiene, therefore causing the condition themselves. This IS a risk factor for penile cancer. However, the fact they are not circumcised matters little...it's the fact that they are dirty and not cleaning themselves regularly and properly. Men who are circumcised and don't wash regularly are also at risk for fungal and bacterial infections in the skin of their penis. It's all about taking care of yourself, not lopping off skin. Women have a smegma-like substance in their nether-regions, too...but no one in the civilized world would suggest cutting off a woman's clitoral hood to prevent infections. It's the same thing.

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Omens, signs, moon, sun and stars and vomit

by Aussie Oz in

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just finished reading a novel.

a nice well written fiction called "stonehenge" by bernard cornwell.. a story of ancient tribes trying figure out the will of the gods.

the priests who claim to be the go-betweens, the power hungry cheiftans that bribe the priests and the misled fools who slave there lives away for promised and never delivered blessings of the gods.. certainly made me rethink the whole role of religion all over again.. nothing more than power.

Morbidzbaby

I agree, Oz. I really despise the fact that religions prey on the fears, delusions, and superstitions of the masses. It's disgusting, to say the least!

...and LMAO @ sky cake!

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Please can we all have a go at describing and celebrating our different NEW IDENTITIES, versus our OLD WBTS IDENTITY?

by Fernando in

at one time most of us here identified as jws who follow the wbts gb/fds who claim to follow the bible etc.

some of us are journeying to a new identity, others may feel they already have a new identity.. although we likely have gone in many different directions, we share a common past which only ex-members can really understand and explain.

please could we each respectfully share and celebrate our unique perspectives of where we have come from, and where we each are now at on this journey?.

Morbidzbaby

OLD~ Judgemental, black and white thinker, caught between a believing mother and an unbelieving but yielding father (he yielded to my mother on matters of religion and how to raise us), subjugated, scared to express an opinion, obedient to my "head".

NEW~Open-minded, free-thinking, dominant in most areas (won't get into where I'm submissive ), freely exchanging thoughts and ideas without fear of repercussions, I ask no one for permission to be myself, I am not blindly obedient (I discuss matters and decide whether or not they are agreeable to me), I have no "head"...I have an equal partner who wants my input on decisions as much as I want his.