Bobcat -Why couldn't "that force" "advance over unimaginably large periods of time to create" - "simpler things"?
Are you implying that god (that force) could have evolved? That he started off simple and advanced?
If so why would you oppose a universe evolving without a god while supporting a god evolving without someone who made him?
The reason it is hard to believe that an all powerful infinitely wise force existed, then made simpler things, is that we do not observe that in nature. We don't see a universe getting smaller and life forms becoming less complex.
Not that that disproves creation, Aliens or a "god" or "the God" could have made us. But we would have to explain their origins aswell.
It really doesn't make things simpler to evoke a god or aliens or whatever. We can't observe it.
We can however observe evolution. Evolution has proven that simpler life forms become more complex without the need for a god. When we get to the question of "yeah well how DID matter become existent" it would be foolish to suddenly say, "oh some guy did it". That is what led science astray for thousands of years.
Nothing" cannot "exist." It is, by definition, non-existent. "Nothing" is a concept somewhat akin to zero.
I'm not going to take your word for this. But I'm sure that topic would go way over my head if physics professor tried to explain it to me.
To make one thing clear here, I don't know how matter came into existence. Now if someone believed we got here when a magical teapot got too hot and had to let the steam escape, their theory would not be made any more valid by pointing at me and saying "yeah well where's your proof? You cant dismiss the teapot when your theory has exactly the same amount of proof" My answer would be, "yeah well I don't know the answer to the origin of life, but I'm pretty sure a theory as stupid as yours, which you made up, is not the answer"
