"Comfort zones" - that's a good way of putting it, snowbird.
Another truism that relates to this: A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still.
there are two ways to slide easily through life; to believe everything or to doubt everything.
both ways save us from thinking.alfred korzybski.
read this phrase today.
"Comfort zones" - that's a good way of putting it, snowbird.
Another truism that relates to this: A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still.
"unless they know and love jehovah first.
they love "jehovah".
they discuss how to make sure that though they are in charge, everyone doesn't see them, they see the great and powerful jehovah.... oh.
It's basic fear-mongering again.
The implication is that, even if you THINK someone loves you, they don't if they aren't a JW.
Nice.....
love me, hate me.
love me, hate me.
(love me, hate me).
I kind of feel sorry for her. I think her parents sold her to the record company, poor thing.
purps asked the question, at what age are the girls required to wear the full dress.. i recently read an awesome book called "nine parts of desire - the hidden world of islamic women.
" by geraldine brooks.. it gives a great history of islam's start and the whole "chador.
" thing.
I live in an area where there's alot of Muslims. The women have to wear the scarves all the time. I also work in a Dr's office, and I've noticed that we've had alot of patients (20-25 year old Muslim women) who need to be treated for alopecia. (Hair loss.)
It just proves to me that we weren't meant to be veiled all the time. Heads need sunshine or else you go bald. Men who wear baseball caps all the time have the same problem.
Oh dear, I think I just hi-jacked my own thread!
i hated it.
we actually never really did.. once, on vacations, we were with another family, they prepared food on the table for breakfast .... and then nobody could touch it for some 15 minutes, when daddy was reading daily text and asking childish questions ... family members were raising hands and answering .... we all were hungry... watching the food ... and hoping it will soon be over (i dont mean armageddon, i mean daily text...) i felt just like an idiot..... albert.
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I liked when i was visiting my grama and she would want us to do the text together each day.
But I remember one time, about a year and a half ago, we read the text, read the comments and then there was dead silence. It was the wierdest thing I had ever read and it made no sense.
Finally, I said, "I have no idea what that was about." My Grama said, "Me neither."
We closed the text and ate supper.
But every once in a while, we laugh about that text. Neither one of us remembers what it was about.
I don't know if I mentioned it here before or not, but....I love my JW Grama!!
purps asked the question, at what age are the girls required to wear the full dress.. i recently read an awesome book called "nine parts of desire - the hidden world of islamic women.
" by geraldine brooks.. it gives a great history of islam's start and the whole "chador.
" thing.
What??
No one likes my choice of reading material? I swear it was a great book!
Thanks, Ooompa! You're my favourite...ummm......ooompa! I loves ya!!
Palmtree
(of the UN-veiled palms.....)
You can't see it in the picture, but there's "duck tape" over her mouth.
purps asked the question, at what age are the girls required to wear the full dress.. i recently read an awesome book called "nine parts of desire - the hidden world of islamic women.
" by geraldine brooks.. it gives a great history of islam's start and the whole "chador.
" thing.
Purps asked the question, at what age are the girls required to wear the full dress.
I recently read an awesome book called "Nine Parts of Desire - The Hidden World of Islamic Women." by Geraldine Brooks.
It gives a great history of Islam's start and the whole "chador
" thing. She actually learned Arabic in order to read and understand the Koran.
She also shows how, in recent years, many young women have adopted the chador as a political statement. As one is quoted, "Now, men have to deal with my mind, and not my body."
One of the things she found out,
"Use almost any word in Arabic, and a host of uninvited meanings barge into the conversation. I learned that one of the words for woman, HORMAH, comes from the same root as the words for both "holy, sacred" and "sinful, forbidden." The word for mother, UMM, is the root of the words for "source, nation, principle, mercy, harvest, stupid, illiterate, parasite, weak of character, without opinion." In the beginning was the word, and the word, in Arabic, was magnificently ambiguous."
So, women are treated according to how each man wants to interpret what he reads in the Koran.
Her conclusion?
"The urgent and relevant task is to examine the way the faith has proved such fertile ground for almost every anti-woman custom it encountered on its great march out of Arabia. When it found veils and seclusion in Persia, it absorbed them; when it found genital mutilations in Egypt, it absorbed them; when it found societies in which women had never had a voice in public affairs, its own traditions of lively women's participation withered."
I found the book to be an interesting commentary on how a religion changes over time. Remind anyone else of another religion.....????
Highly recommended reading,
hiyas,.
i am a close friend of sacraficialloon and he requested that i come here and let you guys know what is going on.. .
last night he went to the er for some severe pain in his side.
SL,
I only know you from your posts. Wishing you the best and also wisdom in your time of difficulty.
here is an excerpt from the "beware the voice of strangers" talk from the 2003 district convention.
this part is obviously referring to the "dateline" special.
notice how they subtly compare the victims with prostitution and insinuate that they are immoral?
I was always called a whore, too. Said exactly that way by by father and implied by the elders. I was molested as a child, so I always thought it must be true.
Avishai, were you expecting this kind of reaction?