Posts by wantstoleave

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Help - am I on the fence??

by wantstoleave in

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please bear with me, newbie here :).

i have had doubts for a few years now.

i was raised in the truth, baptised at 16, married at 24...the usual stuff.

wantstoleave

Wow thanks everyone :)

Ill try and answer as much as I can....

Baba you make great points, you're right, my brother is NOT hurting my parents. They just think he is. Yes, he is a VERY good human being. Everyone loves him, he is such a lovely person. He leads a very wholesome life.

As for the blood issue, I have not thought about it to be honest. I dont think Im that far ahead yet...lol. But I do remember when one of my children was very sick as an infant, and the blood issue coming up. I was crying to my mum about the possibility of us losing baby. She said to me 'you do what YOU need to do...dont worry about anything. It can be sorted out later'. In other words, she was telling me 'if you want baby to have blood - do it'. I sense that my mum has always been somewhat on the fence.

Some news for you all :)

Today I was whinging to my parents about being in 'limbo' because I am not scripturally free. My mum was agreeing with everything I said. Dad had his head bowed. He is a humble man, doesnt like to rock the boat. I guess I started sounding too critical of the 'rules' we must follow regards divorce etc because dad piped up 'I cant save you. You may as well hand in your resignation now because you're dead'.

He didnt say it meanly. I think he said it out of fear. Like he knows no better. 'The truth' has been his life for so long, he cant be criticised for knowing no other words. Mum told him off....lol. She said he was jumping to conclusions, that I wasnt leaving. I just sat there shaking my head.

I told them both some of the experiences from this site (but didnt mention where I got the info) and mum was ropeable. She said how the organisation is so geared towards men. We all know this to be true. I think my mum knows Im on the fence. The other day she was telling a sister how she's already lost one child and doesnt want to lose another, and that she's scared I'll be next. Plus she's been the one Ive confided in in the past when Ive had doubts. I suspect it is a burden for her, worrying about me. But as has been brought out, who are we really kidding? Only ourselves.

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Hey, My JW Wife Went to a Catholic Church Funeral

by OnTheWayOut in

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this is huge (to me).

my wife won't clink glasses.

she won't watch anything r-rated or any shows/movies with a mystical or religious theme or undertone.

wantstoleave

I have been a witness all my life, and have always had no problem stepping foot in other churches...lol. Ive gone to weddings and funerals. I even gave a eulogy at a catholic church for a relative once. I never got in trouble. Why should I? Im only showing respect for the person getting married/died.

If elders ever approached me about it, Id tell them to get lost. Its up to ME what my conscience allows...lol.

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Baptised and on this or other apostate sites - DF'ing Offense???

by cognac in

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just wondering if you can be in a jc for being on apostate sites.

i'm not talking about if you clicked on something by mistake.

does it say it in the elders book?.

wantstoleave

Sorry Cognac for taking this on a tangent :)

Canary....I like how set in your mind you are, I envy that kind of freedom you have. I think thats my problem, 'feeling guilt over not living up to what you think God expects of you'. Ive had lots of food for thought. Will check back tomorrow and hopefully be able to find all these posts again :)

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Baptised and on this or other apostate sites - DF'ing Offense???

by cognac in

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friends

just wondering if you can be in a jc for being on apostate sites.

i'm not talking about if you clicked on something by mistake.

does it say it in the elders book?.

wantstoleave

Jook...who will destroy the WTS? Is that metaphorically speaking or literal?

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the big black hole of belief

by highdose in

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i no longer belive anything that i was ever taught as a jw.

i therefore find myself without any beliefs at all.

which having talked to all the freinds i've made since seems to not be unusual.

wantstoleave

I can totally understand your thinking. Humans are creatures of habit, routine...and when that balance is upset ie. leaving the religion, then you are bound to be a little lost. I would say take time to discover yourself, your thoughts.....and dont jump into anything. You dont have to replace religion with religion :)

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Baptised and on this or other apostate sites - DF'ing Offense???

by cognac in

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friends

just wondering if you can be in a jc for being on apostate sites.

i'm not talking about if you clicked on something by mistake.

does it say it in the elders book?.

wantstoleave

Ah yes, nice point....the WTS putting leaving in the same sentence as leaving God. I knew a family back in the late 90s that all left, all of a sudden. The father had been an MS, then one day, they all just left. None of them were ever Df'd, nor did they Da themselves. That's 10+yrs ago now, and witnesses we know still talk to them when they see them etc, because they were never Df'd. The father claims that he still believes its the truth, and that 'when the call goes out', he will be there saying he's a witness. Yet others say he wont be saved because he hasn't been a practising witness, and has been celebrating as 'worldly' people do.

Tell me, those of you that have left....did you immediately start celebrating birthdays, xmas etc? And with xmas.....did it ever bother you, I mean, knowing what we know that Jesus wasnt born on that day? Or was it more just a celebration and family time?

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Help - am I on the fence??

by wantstoleave in

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friends

please bear with me, newbie here :).

i have had doubts for a few years now.

i was raised in the truth, baptised at 16, married at 24...the usual stuff.

wantstoleave

Stephen, yeh, the elders have even shown me that scripture....that's why it boggles my mind why nothing is being done about him not providing for his children. He never provided for us even while we were married, but I never thought to bring that before the elders. After all, I hadnt been an active JW for years. After he left me, they asked me why I hadnt told them sooner. I was like, 'I didnt want to involve anyone'. They shook their heads. See, I would've thought him not providing for the kids was a Df offence. But, he hasnt been.

As for the bible christians....they were christians following Jesus right? JW's as it were didn't exist in that day.

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Help - am I on the fence??

by wantstoleave in

jw
friends

please bear with me, newbie here :).

i have had doubts for a few years now.

i was raised in the truth, baptised at 16, married at 24...the usual stuff.

wantstoleave

Thanks Canary...good points :)

Can I ask, on the cult thing that Canary mentioned....say we agree that yes, JW is a cult; is there any one true religion then? Where did it all start? Do we then not believe in creation? Or anything from the bible? I think I ask too many questions....LOL! My mind just races ahead trying to comprehend everything. In the past whenever Ive asked questions, like how did God get here etc, I would always be told 'the brain cant comprehend that, you'll have to wait til the new system when Jehovah may tell us'. But I want answers NOW....*stamping foot*....LOL!!

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Have you Overcome Guilt & Fear Since Exiting Jehovah's Witnesses ?

by flipper in

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minimus had a great thread recently asking if any who were witnesses felt guilt as a jehovah's witness.

thought i would build on that a little dealing with how you have moved on after being a jehovah's witness ?.

one definition of guilt in the american heritage dictionary is : " self-reproach for supposed inadequacy or wrongdoing ".

wantstoleave

Hi Humanist :) Can I ask, when you left, did you leave behind family...or have anyone disown you? I find it exciting that you could walk away and feel like a burden had been lifted from your shoulders. That prospect sounds very enticing. How old were you when you did this?

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Im new....posting hesitantly :)

by wantstoleave in

hi everyone...i have a confession to make, i actually joined 5mths ago, but never came back to the site.

ive had doubt for a few years now.. my parents came into the truth when i was a toddler.

no other family members are witnesses.

wantstoleave

Hi Troubled...thankyou :) I like how you point out about a God of mercy....I think that is something often overlooked and forgotten. That through all the different levels of 'power' within the organisation, God has stopped being real. Its almost as if serving man is what has happened. I believe in God...but like you said, I cannot see how a merciful, loving God would want his people to suffer in unhappiness. You've given me food for thought, as has everyone else on this thread....I thank you all so much :)