when i was in my teens i wanted a room of my own, but i lived with my grandparents whose house was very small.. my uncle had been living in a little one room bed-sitter way out in the backyard.
he married and moved away and i moved in.. it was quite isolated and the ceiling was six feet from the floor.
unfortunately, the top of my head was four inches higher than that!
Apognophos
you may be right, it might be the 80's , you know how time messes with your mind. anyway, it was one heck of a warlock story.
Problemadict- yes they are less common in the mags b/c jws are trying to attract the more educated and people were LOL in their faces at those stories. You still hear jws talk among themselves although I think the new light is not to do this as it attracts attention to satan. lol
howdy....well, what do you think?
of everything?
is it all crazy?
Had to retire early due to health. It has been difficut to stop being active, I have always been an active person. My hubby then had a series of serious health events and now he is retired slightly early. ( had tiny 401, really tiny , no pension plan type job). We live on Social Security but own our home, such as it is. ( don't get me wrong, it is a roof over our head but it is old) Sad to say we won't be making any trips anywhere b/c not only do we not have any money but hubby is getting confused with driving and I have always had trouble driving and neither of us can drive at night. I quess we will live out our life where we are at. Our kids lives are in turmoil right now and it is affecting us a lot seriously. Due to marrying at age 17/20 our kids are nearly as old as us ( 45/41) . They still need our help and can't seem to see that we are getting older and it is their turn to step up. Our medical care is costly and insurance is costing us a lot. We have currenlty no insurance to bury either of us, we lost that when he lost his job. If we did not own our home I have no idea what we would do. All I can see for getting older is having to watch every penny we spend and slowly watching our health get worse. Neither of us smoked or drank or had other bad habits. Bad genes I guess.
On the plus side hubby is active at senior center as a volunteer. He get donuts and leads a guitar lesson groups one time a week. He plays with a ping pong group 3-4 times a week. He and another lady sometimes preform at churches singing and playing guitar. I spend most of my time at home but I am keeping my mind active. I worrry about my kids all the time.
Getting older is not for sissies.
i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.
i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.
did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?
The jws themselves help me awaken- their total lack of anything resembling love. I could see mercy and justice were just for the special and not for all. I finally went to college ( 42 graduated) and during first year took Sociology and it helped me see what propaganda was ( covers of wt/awake mags all the books etc ) . Also their cruel treament of people who had problems helped me see this too. I saw that despite their claims they NO social class divisions among themselves ---they did. I just did not see any love.
when i was in my teens i wanted a room of my own, but i lived with my grandparents whose house was very small.. my uncle had been living in a little one room bed-sitter way out in the backyard.
he married and moved away and i moved in.. it was quite isolated and the ceiling was six feet from the floor.
unfortunately, the top of my head was four inches higher than that!
Growing up in the 50's and 60's I heard a lot of demon stories. There was one published in almost every magazine. One I wish I could recall more about ( it was the 60's ) was a warlock who became a witness and was tormented by the demons until he proved he was not backing down. I wish someone with a library could pull that one up. It was quite a story. Somewhere in the 80's the stories started slowing down as the wts started trying to attract the more educated and householders laughed openly in their faces. Also as someone else said, many religions believe in demons other than jws. Very common belief really. common among the poor, ie, pentacostals, church of christ, lot of churches in the Bible belt .
i had a thought today that might prove interesting.
i'm wondering if there are any illegal immigrants who are witnesses?
surely it would be a great position to be in as an illegal immigrant because you could play up your plight and prey on the sympathies of others within the congregation.
The illegals of marriage age should have no problems as there are many willing sisters who will marry them so they can then be legal. This happened a lot in the 80's, 90's. The elders were fond of saying " we are not the police, we have no obligation to turn anyone into the police". However when it came to positions in the Borg, different matter.
we in the psychology/sociology field have a saying "when people protest too loud usually they are overcompensating".
i did not understand that when i first started studying psychology but now i understand it completely and it is so true.
when i hear someone constantly bashing something or someone such as gay bashing or ethnic bashing or religion bashing sometimes i wonder what are they hiding.
Why do you preface you question by asking us to "be honest"? Do you think we are frightned children? I still believe in some aspects of the Bible, mostly the areas that give some moral guidance and history. I do believe in God, but not sure what role He has in our lives. I do not see the Bible it as the inspired literal word of God.
I have been listening to Sam Harris a lot lately and he has really been able to remove the cobwebs from my mind. I recommend him to everyone I get the ones on CD. I have read " Waking Up...." and " the End of Faith..." The End of Faith is a real barn burner if you are in a Fundy religion. He wrote it in 2002, if i was just starting to read his books, I'd start with that book. links to his books below.
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i start the journey towards getting a degree as a registered nurse on jan. 14th, 2013. wish me luck.. .
congrats sooner. I know it is not easy.
aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.
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I still believe everyone who is not violating the law has a right to assemble peacefully, including jws. If I had been in that KH I would have been very frightened but know what, I would have gone home and googled it. No real jws would ever take literature from an apostate ( at least not where he can be seen) but he can look it up on the net. I am not sure how to reach jws to let them know what is happening within their own org( b/c some would care) but invading the kh is not the way I'd go. Maybe printing out booklets for all the churches in the town and going and talking to local pastors, and others who works with children. Go door to door warning neighbors of the deceptive practices of jws, but invade the KH, not for me.
so many witnesses lost the opportunity to pursue higher education in their youths.
perhaps it took decades for many here to leave and now feel it is too late.
degree you will also earn multiple certifications from other agencies:.
Sociology 101 helped me exit the Borg. It helped explain group think and why people believe the weird things they do. It helped me clearly see what Propaganda is. It was one of the single most helpful classes I recall taking. Thank You Sociology 101. It also explained why certain social groups are drawn to certain types of religions etc
so many witnesses lost the opportunity to pursue higher education in their youths.
perhaps it took decades for many here to leave and now feel it is too late.
degree you will also earn multiple certifications from other agencies:.
I got a college degree at 42.
I had to wait unitl my kids were old enough to feed themselves and all that. I stayed up late typing out papers-one of my sons says he can recall hearing that typewriter all night. I dragged myself to classes, had no life and had to spend hours getting help for algerba. I spent hours writing papers . I did it b/c it was important to me. I did not get any help from anyone or grants etc. I worked liked a crazy person alongside people half my age.
I made it.
