I remember when I got baptized and another girl that was near my changing room couldn't stop bawling about it. I didn't shed a tear. Strange.
keeshondgirl
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Sisters crying in the kitchen/lobby
by highdose inyears ago i was at the revamp of a kingdom hall.
one of the sisters told me that since they got rid of the kitchen it was so much better, becuase there were always sisters out there crying!
and now they have no place to go, so they just have to stay in the hall and listen to the meeting!.
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I have finally figured ot how a lot of JWs gain more members besides having more kids...
by cognac ini've noticed that when a bible study is conducted, when worldly people have questions a lot of jws say that there question is covered later in the book.
that way, the worldlys get stopped in there tracks all the while feeling like there questions are getting answered while the assimilation takes place.. they either forget there question or the book tells them what the answer is without either giving them biblical proof or twisting scriptures.
i've noticed a lot of paragraphs in books just telling people what the answer is without scriptures or saying something like, "surely it would make sense that...".
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keeshondgirl
I agree with Misfitme. when i was 18, I was confused and not sure what to do with my life and the jw's answers to my questions sounded great and I was to naive and believed everything they said. I didn't have much biblical knowledge so any answer to my questions sounded truthful enough to me. I was a baptized memeber for 5 years, and during that time I noticed how if a bible study or anyone you met at the door and the person asked about lets say the topic is hellfire or heaven or the trinity, then you were supposed to somehow get off that topic and switch it to a topic that you both agree on such as Jesus being Gods son or something or the bible being inspired by God. The whole point was to get that person agreeing with what you say and putting his 'real' questions on a back shelf and and if the person continues to study long enough and gets baptized then that person can't question the watchtowers view on who goes to heaven because then they will have the fear of being disfellowshipped or something.
I think its easier for someone who wasn't born in the religion to see the real truth of how the mind games work then for someone who was born in the religion. . Just like an animal stuck in a cage all its life, that is all the animal knows. Its boundaries and nothing beyond that. I'm not saying all born ins are like that but it seems harder for a born in to leave and question because of only knowing the watchtower and nothing beyone. Its hard to leave ones comfort zone. It was easy for me to leave after figuring out how things really are and plus I had absolutely no family there and I quicky realized people who I thought were my friends weren't so it was easy to leave it all behind.
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Is it alowed to watch / read Harry Potter movies (books) in your area?....
by Albert Einstein inis it alowed to watch / read harry potter movies (books) in your area?.
in my country (eastern europe) it is viewed mostly as "unexemplary" , although many kids have harry potter dvds at home, but nobody talks about it .... at circuit assembly one speaker warned, that "some might be tempted to watch a movie, with a little witch .... (of course it is very dangerous and we must stay away!!!)".
when i started my departure several months ago, i made sure my son has all movies on dvd and i openly talk about it with dubs who visit our home - how nice the movies are - ... nobody so far dared to react.... albert .
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keeshondgirl
the k.hall we went to (united states) openly said at the platform that harry potter was from satan and several people talked openly how evil they are. I also remember it being talked about at assemblys. I didn't watch them when I was going to the k.hall because we weren't supposed too, husband secretly watched them and when I was feeling rebellious I secretly watched them. Now, since being done with the jw's I saw all the movies and am presently reading one of the books. I LOVE Harry potter and don't see whats so evil about it.
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Why do JWs fear Satan and demons so much?
by Deputy Dog infor a group that claims not to believe in hell, why do jws fear satan and demons so much?
a quick search on my 2003 wt cd reveals over 14,000 references just to satan's name..what is the worst thing satan could do to a jw?
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keeshondgirl
I had a witness friend that always prayed to keep herself protected from the demons. My husbands mom is always talking about how the demons are out to get you and a person has to keep the light on at night to keep the demons away. haha.. I told her she is more afraid of demons then she is confident in her Gods protection.
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keeshondgirl
I have close to 200 animals because I love them so much. When I was a witness I was told by several witnesses that I shouldn't have all the animals (detracts time from them and studying) and they talked behind my husbands and my back as being 'materialistic' for having so many animals. We take good care of our animals and we have seen witnesses who have 2 pets who cant take care of them. Not Once was a talk given about taken proper care of your animals. I always thought when the bible says a persons desires will be satisfied in the 'new world' then it could mean my animals that died God would bring back to life for me. Never say that to a witness. They will tell you animals don't get a resurrection because they can't think and don't serve God. The witnesses didn't even like to come to our house to see the different animals we have. They didn't care!! When I would get a new exotic animal, I couldn't even tell the people whom I thought were my friends because they would frown upon it. I am proud of owning a pet skunk! And a pig! And sheep! And peacocks! And swans!....and all my other animals. and no, I do not eat animals. I am a vegetarian!
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"My Book of Bible Stories" returned for being "too violent for kids." You Agree?
by Witness 007 inobviously a book written for kids by old dumb morons at bethel the book starts with abels murder {with pictures for the kids} people begging to get into the ark before drowning to death...a good lesson for kiddies!
a women putting a tent peg thru someones temple {with pictures} moses killing an egyptian.
etc a horrified atheist lady returned the books my mother gave as "gifts" {count 2 placements} after seeing the horrific topics, she decided it was "not apropriate for her kids.".
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keeshondgirl
When I used to read that book to my neice when she was 6 she used to be sad about the picture of the babies dying in the flood story. I didn't know how to really answer her why babies died too because she said the adults didn't listen not the babies.
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Young JW sisters in a hurry
by asilentone indid you notice any young jw sisters in the past that did rush to get married too young and to have a baby right away before the end comes?
did you hear any stories of regret?
i was wondering if the watchtower is to blame for?.
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keeshondgirl
I wasn't raised as a JW but was dumb and believed it was the truth from a JW friend. I fell in love with a boy who was kinda raised in it, he wasn't baptized at the time. I was 18 when I got married to him and 19 when I got baptized, and he was 22. I was persuaded not to marry him because he wasn't spiritual enough from my friend and the elders at the k.hall. I didn't care what they said. We only attended the k.hall for 5 years and now have zero part of it and we are still happily married and more in love then ever. I remember an elder that told us he never sees a couple who gets married before getting baptized succeeding in their marriage. Our marriage over powered the witness cult, haha. My 'friend' still isn't married because she will only marry someone with a dumb title like elder or c.o. She'll be 30 before she knows it and still living with mommy and daddy because of false ideals her parents and witnesses have given to her. We married for love, not for prominence. Love Never Fails.
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Baptism Questions??
by lepermessiah inthis forum tends to get me thinking about things from the past and then roll my eyes.. i was recalling a particular pharasee in the congregation who used to love showing everyone how "smart" he was.. when i would go over the questions with someone, we would fly through them because it was usually with kids who were raised as jw's and could answer then in their sleep.
(besides the fact it was an "open book" quiz.).
well, mr pharasee used to always make it into a marathon session and take 2-3 hours to go over one section of the questions with someone.. he could take a simple question like "what is god's name?
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keeshondgirl
Only the 1985 questions have the person say yes to being one of jehovahs witnesses in association with the Organization. What does that mean for all those who were baptized before that year?
Baptismal questions from the August 1, 1966 Watchtower, p. 465:
(1) Have you recognized yourself before Jehovah God as a sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?
(2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?Baptismal questions from the May 15, 1970 Watchtower, p. 309:
(1) Have you recognized yourself as a sinner and needing salvation from Jehovah God? And have you acknowledged that this salvation proceeds from him and through his ransomer, Christ Jesus?
(2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for redemption have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to Jehovah God, to do his will henceforth as that will is revealed to you through Christ Jesus and through God's Word as his holy spirit makes it plain?Baptismal questions from the May 1, 1973 Watchtower, p. 280:
(1) Have you repented of your sins and turned around, recognizing yourself before Jehovah God as a condemned sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?
(2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?The newest baptismal questions, from the June 1, 1985 Watchtower:
(1) On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?
(2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? -
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Hard times for Target employees
by moshe ini had a part time job at the local target store and i noticed in june they started cutting hours-consolidating positions.
many who were formerly fulltime with very good medical benefits found themselves with only 15 hours of work each week and expensive prescriptions that were no longer covered by insurance.
when i moved this summer i was transferred to a store down here in florida and they refused to give me any hours.
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keeshondgirl
My husbands brother works there and he is always having his hours cut back to like 3 days a week. He was working many hours for a while then cut him back. It seems like they have many employees who don't work that often.
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Question on Divorce when NOT scrip free.
by wantstoleave inhope some light can be shed for me here :).
to cut a long story short, ex left me well over a year ago and filed divorce proceedings on me from another country.
was thrown out of court as the jurisdiction wasn't correct.
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keeshondgirl
I think different congregations respond differently to divorcing. I knew a couple who were married for a couple years and had a child. They didn't get along very well and the exuse was they got married very young so it was okay to get a divorce. They divorced then the man remarried someone else shortly after being divorced. He and his new wife went to a different k.hall so they wouldn't run into his ex wife. No disfellowshipping for either partner and even when he got remarried he didn't get disfellowshipped. I will never understand the watchtower rules. I guess he just couldn't hold a microphone for a while as his punishment.