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  Preach, preach, preach....feel guilty...preach some more

  by Tornintwo in

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  since starting to wake up, i can't help notice how so many talks emphasise preaching, increasing your hours, pioneering etc...with a hefty load of guilt on the side.. i always noticed the guilt, but now i'm noticing how talks that seem to start out on another issue always seem to come back to hours!

  visit talk seemed to start out about persecution, trusting in jehovah etc...but the main thrust in the end was, 'do more hours, pioneer, don't get an education or pursue a career, don't get distracted, hooray for the pioneers!

  if you dont do more hours you will be 'the sort that shrink back to destruction'.

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  Heaven

  To force someone to do something they are not cut out to do is ludicrous.

  I never felt that it was anyone's right, including my own, to try and coerce someone into a religion.

  JW Field-Serve Us is really being a door-to-door religious salesman.
  

  The scripture at James 3:1 applies very much to JWs, especially since they are preaching made up crap:

  "Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly."

  So... even the Bible says not everyone should be doing this.
  
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  How did you feel after..

  by zeb in

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  ..you had been away from the wt for a time.

  i saw a quote tonight and it leapt off the page for me.. "now i know what it feels like to be part of a circle of friends, part of a group.

  its a very different feeling than i have had before and it feels wonderful and right'.. spoken by a lady after being released of her heart "wall" that she had established for protection.. + comments please if you like.

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  After leaving home and getting hired at my present employer (over 30 years ago), I realized just how negative my parents had become when I'd visit them.
  

  Everything was bad, nothing was good, and there were no answers other than 'Jehovah' (which I find to be a completely useless answer).

  I thought about how our lives were diverging, like a fork in the road, a path that splits in 2 with each going off into 2 different directions. It made me sad... like I was suffering their death before they had actually died.

  
  
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  Church of Derp: New Light... Adam's Nipples

  by freemindfade in

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  Was Adam Andre's father? Inquiring minds need to know.
  
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  Growing up gay in North korea

  by fulltimestudent in

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  how do you know you're "gay", if you've never heard of "gay?".

  does something exist if there is no word to describe it?

  consider the experience of jang yeong-jin.. .

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  From the article: “There are many homosexuals in North Korea who live a miserable life without even knowing why,” Jang Yeong-jin said. “What a tragedy it is to live a life without knowing who you are.”

  How does the suppression of information and knowledge benefit the world? There is absolutely no point to living a miserable life because of this.
  
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  Church of Derp: New Light... Adam's Nipples

  by freemindfade in

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  fmf said: Heaven you helped inspire me lol.

  Awww, shucks.
  
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  What do you say to a 5 year old that asks

  by Crazyguy in

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  'dad why don't you go to meetings?

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  HMTM said: Daddy's very tired, son.

  Yes, he is tired of the crap.
  
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  Christians don't know the Bible.

  by cappytan in

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  yep.

  i said it.. christians don't know the bible.. you know how i'm going to prove it?

  i'll use the same amount of credible evidence they use for the existence of god.. here it is.. [start of evidence].

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  cappy, you are clearly taking the evidence out of context.
  
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  Christians not knowing the Bible

  by Viviane in

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  2. beliefs

  last night a young man in a bar struck up a conversation with me.

  our town is having our pride parade soon and he brought it up, the bible and how it's against the bible.

  me being me, i said that i couldn't care less that it was against the bible and that it was a horrible guide for morality anyway.

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  Church of Derp: New Light... Adam's Nipples

  by freemindfade in

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  LOL! This is awesome fmf.
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  Elders are Complicit with WT Society in Child Abuse Scandals- Gonzalo Campos Case

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  of course, most of us realize this.

  however sometimes even on this board sometimes threads have stated that the jw elders have been occasionally painted as the " fall guys " who take the rap for the wt society leaders - which of course is true - to a degree.

  however- that being said , many times elders have failed to protect - or even have failed to advocate for child abuse victims when it has been within their power to do so.

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  STADD said: I remember a conversation I had with a CO around 2005 about child abuse and he told me it was not that bad in the Wt. org. That there was only a few cases of it worldwide. I said to him I must know all of them when I told him of 7 cases I knew about. He had this scared look come over his face and then he changed the subject.

  I concur with what STADD said. It is my experience that most JWs do not realize the enormity of the issue of child abuse in the organization.

  I told my Dad a few years ago that if there was just 1 JW who was a child molester, then this cannot be God's organization. How could/would God allow this? My Father could not answer this question. This was in direct relation to a discussion we had about a child molester in my Dad's former congregation.