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  OVERLAPPING GENERATION Written Review

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/search?cx=partner-pub-4963413421914369%3ag5in7s-4bz3&cof=forid%3a10&ie=iso-8859-1&q=overlapping&siteurl=www.jehovahs-witness.net%2fsearch.

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  many threads on the overlapping generation...how do you explain it briefly to a ex-jw or jw on the edge?.

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  Sapphy

  Simply - The generation who saw 1914 passed away so the society expanded the term 'that generation' to include people who were alive when the generation who saw 1914 were alive.

  That simple explanation would get you called apostate though, so to a JW on the edge:

  Since society teaches the last days began in 1914 and Jesus said 'this generation will by no means pass away', our current understanding of the term generation encompasses those who saw 1914 and those whose lives overlapped with them. So if, for example you grandmother was born in 1912 and lived to see your daughter (her great grandaughter) who was born in 1993, they are deemed to be part of the same ovrerlapping generation.
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  todays WT study...the picture...?

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wish i could scan it and get your thoughts.

  it was a picture of a happy group of witnesses during a meeting for field service.

  there was a. comment from a local high-horse-rider about a brother in the front row in the picture being disobedient.

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  Sapphy

  In our hall the comment about the picture was that there seem to be lots of 'qualified brothers' tm in the audience who could 'take the lead' tm but who were 'humbly submiting' tm to the 'arrangment' tm .
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  Stephen Hawkings and Richard Dawkins attend the Jehovah's witnesses two-day assembly program at London Edgware assembly hall

  by mankkeli in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-15834523.

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  Sapphy

  They were both amazed at the grandiloquent write up of the newly released brochures on the origin of life released at the 2010 DC

  :rofl:
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  I have to say sorry!!!

  by mouthy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to all those who heard me on the conference call last night.

  seems they thought i talked to much....i was taught by the wt .

  to advertize ,advertize,advertize...i guess i am still obeying them.

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  Sapphy

  I havent heard the call, but you have such a lovely warm tone of voice I could listen to you for hours! (I'm a londoner too)
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  "Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?

  its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .

  if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?

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  Sapphy

  To be honest this just underlines the fact that women have no value in the organisation aside from their relationship with men. District overseer's wife, circuit overseer's wife, elder's wife - 'status' for a woman is only through her "husbandly owner".

  17 years of a women getting sporadically beaten is a price worth paying if it brings a male in the cult.

  They pay lip service to women doing the bulk of the time wasting busy work ministry, but that is all it is.
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  Acceptable and unacceptable dress for visiting Bethel

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came across this on another thread with pictures/photos ,is this for real ?

  i couldnt beleive my eyes or ears?.

  the control that this organization has over it`s members... is ..is ... well it`s a cult !!

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  Sapphy

  I love the obession they have with ensuring sisters wear high heels. I mean the sister on ther cover page, touring a factory wearing 2 or 3 inch heels? It's so stupid it's laughable.

  It's not high dress standards either, people in the world don't 'admire' our clothes.

  I was on the service once with a friend in standard witness preaching dress & a man answered the door with "I'm not interested", I said, being a smart alec "But you dont know why we're here", He said "You're Jehovahs Witnesses and I know this cos you're young women dressed like the Waltons".

  I had to laugh.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-13-2011 WT Study (RUN RACE)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that the runners in a race all run, but only.

  in the christian race, all who finish win that.

  you do to finish and thus win that race?.

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  Sapphy

  Thanks Blondie.

  That concept of 'by assocation' or 'by extension' is a real thought blocker.

  The preaching commission applies to the other sheep 'by extension'.

  The prohibition on blood applies to the other sheep 'by extension' even though literal Israel could sell an unbled animal to an 'alien resident' without sin...

  It's so stupid. If I associate with a bunch of millionaires who have to pay 50% tax, as a poor person I don't become liable for their tax rate by association simply because I go to the same church with them.
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  A week without field service makes you weak! Anybody remember that?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember an assembly--maybe 30 years ago--and it was stated over and over again in one of the assembly parts.

  i suppose we should avoid association with someone who hasn't been out in service for a "week" or we will also become "weak.

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  Sapphy

  Hi 3rdgen - I'm not Blondie by any means, but I think you're thinking of WT 1974 2/15 "Widening Out in Our Love for Mankind"

  From paragraph 19

  But this will not free from bloodguilt individuals who fail to show real love and concern for fellowmen. To illustrate, if a father neglected his child so that it came into a perilous situation, he would not be without guilt even if someone else rescued the child from death. Similarly, one professing to be a servant of Jehovah but failing in his duty toward others would not be guiltless. His loveless, unconcerned attitude would be tantamount to murder. He would not be able to excuse himself on the basis that he did some preaching, for Jehovah God would know the degree of negligence and would pass judgment accordingly.—Rom. 14:12.

  Now is no time for anyone to try to get by with mere token service or to involve himself with cares of life or business ventures to such an extent that he has no time for people. The greatest lifesaving work in the history of mankind is rapidly drawing to a close. Is it not right, therefore, for us to make sacrifices, to forgo personal pleasures and desires?
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  A week without field service makes you weak! Anybody remember that?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember an assembly--maybe 30 years ago--and it was stated over and over again in one of the assembly parts.

  i suppose we should avoid association with someone who hasn't been out in service for a "week" or we will also become "weak.

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  Sapphy

  I always heard it as seven days without service/meetings/ministry makes one week/weak
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  The rise and rise of Paul Gillies?

  by JWB in

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  2. friends

  the rise and rise of paul gillies?.

  here are a view details about the 57-year-old paul stuart gillies.. .

  2011: appointed as a director of international bible students association (ibsa) on 2 november having resigned as a director of watch tower bible and tract society of britain on the same day.

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  Sapphy

  Paul Gillies is seen as a 'safe pair of hands'. An organisation man through and through.