Im a sales manager and trainer.
Guess it's all those hours selling magazines coming through.
hi everyone,.
i am a new poster who is putting off their own personal story of finding this site for a while..... i find alot of people here utterly fascinating, and would like to know..... exactly what is everyones professional field of work?.
i would like to be a full time poster on this forum, but alas, the $$$$ are quite light in that field of work.. apologies if this has been asked before.. just curious.
Im a sales manager and trainer.
Guess it's all those hours selling magazines coming through.
something i would really appreciate feedback for.... if any of you have ever made and impact on a jw what was it?
what was the one sentance, or one seed of doubt that made their brains start ticking?
were you sucessful?
Hi all,
SOmething I would REALLY appreciate feedback for...
If any of you have ever made and impact on a JW what was it? What was the one sentance, or one seed of doubt that made their brains start ticking? Were you sucessful? Where are these people who you made an influence on now?
I have been wondering for months the one question that could make them think...
What have YOU got a blank, shocked look from? What have you got interest from, what topic IN PARTICULAR?
I know this has been addressed frequently, but I just want a PERSONAL experience from as many people as possible.
Thanking you all
hi everyone,.
i am a new poster who is putting off their own personal story of finding this site for a while..... i find alot of people here utterly fascinating, and would like to know..... exactly what is everyones professional field of work?.
i would like to be a full time poster on this forum, but alas, the $$$$ are quite light in that field of work.. apologies if this has been asked before.. just curious.
Hi everyone,
I am a new poster who is putting off their own personal story of finding this site for a while....
I find alot of people here utterly fascinating, and would like to know....
Exactly what IS everyones professional field of work?
I would like to be a full time poster on this forum, but alas, the $$$$ are quite light in that field of work.
Apologies if this has been asked before.
Just curious.
if it was'nt for the internet i would still be stuck in the endless cycle of drone like meeting attendance and field service.
(technically i'm still in but not for long) i'm really glad that some ex-jws took the time to speak about the real truth.
for the longest time i always thought that what i was taught was correct, i never even felt the need to question it or validate it with actual facts.
bchapp,
I understand completely that sick feeling, I am just getting over it now.
The turning point for me was the U.N issue and the ludicrous reaction that J.W's had to it.
Have you had a response from your letter yet?
there are two things.
in the early and mid 80s there were witnesses saying that the cartoon characters the smurfs were not acceptable for witnesses.
i had two smurf cartoon books and my mother made me throw them away.
The Wiz,
Are you serious that to think the world was'nt going to end in 1975 was apostasy?
Could you get DF for it?
JW's always tell me that it was never PREDICTED only SUGGESTED and no one HAD to accept it.
there are two things.
in the early and mid 80s there were witnesses saying that the cartoon characters the smurfs were not acceptable for witnesses.
i had two smurf cartoon books and my mother made me throw them away.
I know this thread is old, but I just HAD to respond to it, it's one of the things that cracked me up when I was first lurking (very embarrasing)
When I showed my hubby, he thought it was a joke, but I told him all of the replys are true. The look on his face and the "WHAT THE 88@! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!" made my face go a darker shade of red.
My own responses:
_ My flatmate was really concerned about some cds I had so I put them outside so she would'nt be scared, she said it may be too late now, coz the demons could have gone out of the cd's and into something else and now we might never get rid of them!!
_ I dont know if anyone else got this, but I was totally BANNED from watching the Simpsons in my house, other witnesses were discouraged too.
_ Once when I got angry at my mother and was yelling, she asked me if satan was talking through me. ("Like im going to go: Yeah, as a matter of fact he is, wanna say hello?!")
_ We were'nt allowed to listen to "Hotel California" by The Eagles, as apparently if you listened to the words properly it was about a haunted hotel.
_ My sister wasnt allowed to have a heart sculpture filled with champagne at her wedding as it could look like it was blood pouring out of the heart and stumble others.
_ My sisters and bros always had to have a chaperone with them and their bfreinds/gfreinds even if it was a 5 minute car trip.
_ We had an elder say from the platform at an assembely that it was very worldly to watch Dawsons Creek as it promoted immorality (out of all the t.v shows to ban, they picked lame Dawsons Creek?!)
_ That if I went to any other JW internet sites (anti) I would be exposed to copious amounts of pornography and virus' would be immediately downloaded onto my computer that I may never get rid of.
(this was also announced at an assembely)
_ That my shirt (over the top of my swimmers) when I get baptised has to be totally plain, preferably white with no emblems or pictures. (can anybody tell me WHY this was always the case?
I could go on and on....
if it was'nt for the internet i would still be stuck in the endless cycle of drone like meeting attendance and field service.
(technically i'm still in but not for long) i'm really glad that some ex-jws took the time to speak about the real truth.
for the longest time i always thought that what i was taught was correct, i never even felt the need to question it or validate it with actual facts.
bchapp,
Congratulations on your decision.
What would you say was the "Final straw" for you?
How long have you been studying?
I told my study that I was no longer going ot study anymore and if she came over I would explain why.
Well, we arranged a day and she did'nt show up, or call.
I have'nt heard from her since, it's been a month.
Most likely, she knew what I was going to say, even though ive never discussed any of the topics on this board before.
Hope your study is a bit more inquisitive.
if it was'nt for the internet i would still be stuck in the endless cycle of drone like meeting attendance and field service.
(technically i'm still in but not for long) i'm really glad that some ex-jws took the time to speak about the real truth.
for the longest time i always thought that what i was taught was correct, i never even felt the need to question it or validate it with actual facts.
Yep, the internet did it for me!!!
Like many others responding on this thread, I was completely terrified when I stumbled on www.jehovahswitness.com, but because I had for years been slowly fading away (still believed it was the truth, never the less) I dared myself to read on.
I went through stages really, it took me a while to actually figure out what the hell people were talking about (U.N and child abuse scandals) I had never heard of these things inside the organisation.
I gaped and gasped, got angry and deemed this board one "full of liars"
but.....
I could'nt stop thinking about it... I had to find out, so I did my own research.
Well you can guess what happened next.
I would say that I went through stages:
1. Fear:
- Someone (a JW) is going to find out i'm on the board and crucify me, oops I mean stake me.
_ I had to keep looking over my shoulder even though I do not live with my JW family and have no reason to be on the lookout.
_ I kept to this forum a long time before I ventured onto the other "apostate" sites. (dont ask me why, I guess in my deranged state of mind at the time, I thought it was "less" apostate than others?!!)
_ Of course, fear of discovering the "Real Truth"
2. Realisation
- Feeling sick and suffering from insomnia, checking the board practically every 3 hours.
_ Nightmare after nightmare
_ Raving to my partner as soon as I got home from work and before I go to work, and all night and whatever spare time I possibly had, asking him if I was making the right decision, Telling him about what i'd found on the board, ect.
3. Blabbing
This happens to be something I really regret:
- Writing endless (and futile) letters to my family, spouting "apostate" talk to my freinds, hence experiencing THE WALL, big time.
And now?
Freedom and peace of mind.... nearly.
So yes, I was an internet leaver.
i don't know if this q has been brought up on the forum, if so i apoligize, but i was just thinking about this today, and wondered how many here left or are thinking about or trying to leave the b-org as result of the un fiasco?
how many do you know of that left due to this?.
seedy
IM THE SIXTH!!!!
Stumbled upon this site purely accidentally, and what did I find?
The U.N scandal was the first thing I read and I was completely set on finding the answer.
I did a HUGE amount of research and left.
I wrote a letter to Bethel and got the "Standard" fob off, well that was it.
When my family said the affiliation was totally o.k, I replied:
"Fine then, I can tell all my J.W friends about it."
And I did.
(That did not really go down too well.)
I have been lurking here for months and have only just started posting.
But I want to say a huge THANK YOU to everyone who woke me up.
One day, I will post my story.
hullo people, well its my first time here so, i wanted to say hi and if any of you guys who pop in here happen to be from australia or even new zealand, please contact me, well if you want, because i know there are heaps of us around who have had the big df and i know a few in the brisbane area, so if you by chance find this note, yes its me and maybe we could get together.
see ya all.
soldier on :)
Hi signgirl,
Welcome....
I am very new here myself
Are you actually from Brisbane?