was there one issue or incident, final straw, so-to-speak, that made you leave once and for all?
i know there was for me.. i had been having doubts for years, and had stopped believing it was the truth.
but i labored on as a jw, in part because of my family, and in part because i had invested so much of myself in it.
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When I began to see my teenage children being forced to conform to opinions of the Elders it brought out a protective mother instinct in me like a wolf protecting her cubs . I knew my youngest son was going to stop associating and I would be damned if I would follow the WT counsel to shun him .
i salute you.. kids are everything who are we to screw them up
...or are there a lot of "cougars" cruising jwn.
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concerned jwn poster..
i like how its so easy to wind people up with my youthful good looks. hahahahah. seems one comment caused a stir ;)
well if seven million people officially dont love me then I have to love myself. ;)
...or are there a lot of "cougars" cruising jwn.
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concerned jwn poster..
its that whole passing the buck thing again, men like the older women, dont want to admit it so we get labelled as predatory..
*likes younger blokes if anyone is interested - people mistake me for a teenager sometimes Im 34 hahahah*
or is it considered worldly?.
how are they going to communicate without electricity?.
what will they use to light up kingdom halls during thursday night meetings?.
in the humourous light of this thread I cannot resist to say that there will be wind power generated at the kingdom halls by the old windbags who give talks.
i know a "sister" who has been df'd 10 times for adultery within a period of 15 years..... she is married....her hubby was an elder until she got df'd for the 1st time...he was then deleted....apparently the sister was not happy in the bedroom, he was always away doing cong duties, including jcs....... she keeps getting reinstated, and usually it does'nt take long for her (not the usual 6 months).....apparently she is a very good actress (she cries like a baby in the jcs )..... how many times can she keep getting df'd and reinstated like this until the elders say it is enough?.
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african gb member.
who decides what 'evildoing' is anyway? - and the last time I went to confess my sins as it were, it was because we had studied the Isaiah book in the group and it said that your sins would be made white as the driven snow, or compared to being cast to the bottom of the ocean,
“Come, now, YOU people, and let us set matters straight between us,” says Jehovah. “Though the sins of YOU people should prove to be as scarlet, they will be made white just like snow; though they should be red like crimson cloth, they will become even like wool.
and in Isaiah 43:25 it states 25 “I—I am the One that is wiping out your transgressions for my own sake, and your sins I shall not remember.
The book went on to tell us how happy we should be that Jehovah wipes out our sins - they are like a blank paper with no record.
of course when I confessed my sins I was disfellowshipped on the grounds that it was a repeated sin. - I wonder how this ties in with the fact that when we sin, jehovah keeps no record. and yet the WTBTS does?
This is one of the many things I have much difficulty equating with.
let me first say that i believe in god, in jesus and the holy spirit.
therefore to hear the watchtower liken us who have been df, ( in our case asking questions about u.n. paedophiles 607 etc ) liken us to the first apostate the devil i find them judgmental in the extreme, not surprised but very offensive.. thanks to "flipper" with his thread i have decided to ban my brother in law from coming to my home, this year he intends to come over from spain where the need is great, ............the wine.and the beaches very nice too.. he is going to visit his mother who now because of dementia lives with us.. he will not be allowed on my premises at all, he will pick mum up at the front gate.. as a witness you must accept what the so called boffins tell you.. therefore if he can align himself with thinking that way, of his sister and myself then he is not welcome.. i will only accept him in my home when he gets out of her (babylon the great).
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Hi Kaytee - I can understand your reasoning - and theres a time to know when you are being taken advantage of, and you dont have to be around just because they say so and they have a get out clause entitled 'important family matters' seem they cover all angles eh? :) but remember - they are the one putting this into practice - a treatment which is wholly unchristian, unloving and cruel, so do not make yourself bitter by doing the same, - go for the good Karma, shunning them will only make you bitter, and at least you can always stand up and know that at least you behaved in a fitting way xx
if his message was to be followed like a rule book, wouldn't he have written down some things with his own hand?.
because he was too busy partying with the wine and the food and the hey hey hey
why?........is it therapy or revenge?....or wanting to save others from the real truth?..what else is there?...........i feel all three...and why do i so want to help others...does not evryone have a right to their own belief?.......oompa.
fair enough - i get fed up of arguing sometimes i want a bit of peace lol x
why?........is it therapy or revenge?....or wanting to save others from the real truth?..what else is there?...........i feel all three...and why do i so want to help others...does not evryone have a right to their own belief?.......oompa.
so this was my other blog post...
I know its not me - and I know i have to get a grip and stop niggling. I want the day to come when I am excited to get out of bed in the morning or just glad to have a lie in. I miss my family and I miss having someone to be around who loves me back. Im not an Island. Ok so I did another quiz in this book - it said I was footloose. I r esist everything except temptation and let tomorrow take care of itself. the only bad thing is the morning after and how decisions have a rash way of catching up. - that my impetuousness is not good for me. - well I knew this but what am I supposed to do about it? - Apparently the answer is 'Self Regulation' and here is the starter course 1. Sit up straight whenever you remember. 2. postpone your first cup of tea or coffee by 15 minutes every day. 3. concentrate on one thing entirely for five minutes in a day - whether it be a word on a poster or a mark on the floor. 4. Keep a record of everything you consume for a week 5. sit quietly and do nothing for an hour at lunch or in the evening. (hmmm that one is hard Ill fall asleep) the point is you have your mind on regulating your behaviour and studies showed that at the end of two weeks people are better at self regulating whether that is keeping a diary, or even turning your gloomy thoughts into positive ones.... this has to be worth a try..
why?........is it therapy or revenge?....or wanting to save others from the real truth?..what else is there?...........i feel all three...and why do i so want to help others...does not evryone have a right to their own belief?.......oompa.
I read this in a book. - so heres the blog post I posted
I read about apologies and forgiveness. - when you get what they call 'Righteous Indignantion' you believe that you have been wronged and this may well be the case. - they may have transgressed the rules of society, a moral boundary or your own good standards. - so you may be right, the question is does being right actually help? - sometimes even taking a principled stance is not the right one. the only right way is for the relationship to end. - even if later down the line you choose to forgive, and this can only make me feel better. The personal benefits of forgiveness are immense - even if you choose not to continue in a relationship with someone who has aggrieved you - forgive them anyway. - because when you are angry and hard done by its common to replay the hurtful event over and over in your head - its like prodding a bruise. you can only increase the irritation and keep hurting yourself by doing this, -or thinking how they have got away with it.. - all this does is hurt you. forgiveness reduces your own guilt - for allowing yourself to end up in this situation anyway. even if you dont feel that forgiving someone will make any difference to improve the relationship, it will improve you. Hmm. ok thats sound advice - but how the hell do i put it into practice. how do you forgive someone who has done so many crappy things to you? or people who have done one terrible thing.. how do you get to the point when you think - ok, I forgive you, but the things they do dont eat you alive all day and all night, because you feel so wronged? well - its sound advice i suppose - forgive people , move on, and let the bitterness be theirs - its easier said than done - but i also read about 'self regulating ... next post hang on.. was interesting.
