Posts by creativhoney

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My latest letter to the org and their reply

by uncle_onion in

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so we can see that the early jehovah witnesses believed that jesus parousia began in 1874. the truth book states this above and it is in all the old books.

this statement is coming from the organization that offered the scholarship and keeps written records of such.

creativhoney

it basically sums up in three words the response by any witness to any question that shakes foundations...

errrrmmm

ask the elders.

42

Your children are worthless. Get rid of them.

by easyreader1970 in

last night the co came to visit.

he gave a talk that centered around a christian's ability to function well within the organization.

there are many christians who are having problems in their personal lives and this can be traced to one thing.

creativhoney

If I shunned my kids, who would make me cups of tea in the morning.

Sheesh!

(Not that I go to the Kingdom Hall anyway but even so...)

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The hidden message in the June 15 2009 watchtower.

by Hobo Ken in

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this study will set the tone for future-proofing the watchtower society doctrine that their governing body is "the faithful slave" mentioned in parable by jesus in matthew24.. i thought as i read the study article starting on p.20 that the most important thing about this piece is what is missing, what is not said.. the first paragraph sets the tone of what they are trying to convey.. "while giving the composite sign of the last days jesus said, who really is the faithful and discreet slave?".

i believe what they are doing with the opening paragraph is placing the authority and position of "the slave" within the context of the signs of the times thus attempting to validate it.

without mentioning when they became such.. they then say that jesus would "reward" and appoint this slave over all his belongings.

creativhoney

Hey Ken. i just had a thought, - its friday night, we left the witnesses, is it possible you spend more time studying the watchtower now than before?

lol I am just teasing by the way, but I think after all that you should have a beer. x

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Anyone know about this pro JW website?

by middleman in

looks interesting.... .

http://www.scripturaltruths.com/.

creativhoney

arent any PRO JW websites that arent official not allowed and therefore not pro Jw? a paradox? witnesses arent supposed to be on anything about witnesses that the society havent created?

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Star Trek

by StAnn in

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okay, i have to confess, i like star trek.

i like voyager best, of the tv series.. anyway, tonight they had a sneak peek of the new star trek movie and we went.

it was really good!.

creativhoney

Star Trek was a great movie and I think true to the old ethos it had all that star trek cheesiness in it!!

brilliant film and evereyone should go and see it!!!

21

MS NOT D/F ?

by lostjdub93 in

i know of a case where a ms is living net door to his mother and father.

his dad is a elder and mom is a long time pioneer.

he no longer attends meetings and has many "wild" parties and also has a live in girlfriend.

creativhoney

yes 'prominent' elder in my old cong went to his df'd sons wedding to a worldly - and his wife was proudly showing the photos round the KH...

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Jw's getting married BEFORE divorces are final?

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

a video was sent to me with some claims that struck me as very odd.

after over 40 years associated with the wbts i never heard that a couple could marry and consumate their marriage even while one of them was in the middle of a divorce that has not been finalized.

the claims are that they can marry with a "promise" to go and get the union ratified by civil authorities and that jehovah and jesus are ok with the fornication as long as they promised.

creativhoney

my ex was 'getting to know' someone and sitting on the same row at kingdom hall, while we werent yet divorced. - he said we were divorced in the eyes of God. - and besides they wernt 'courting' just 'getting to know'

does anyone else get angry at the stupid lingo?

now we are divorced - just on the day he sees a new one called Lucy they have met twice. he has already proceeded to tell her the results of any elders meetings i had in additioon to some of the woeful things i have been through since my divorce. - what right did he have to do that?

I said i needed to opportunity to defend myself by sending her a letter with all the details of how he had been in our marriage and what had caused it to end, including his online relationship with a 15 year old girl and how he kissed my sister when she was asleep and said he thought it was me..

hypocrisy makes me angry.

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New to the Forum

by creativhoney in

hi i have been on a few days - im not sure how it all works but heres my history - maybe people can relate to it... well basically when i was nine years old my brother died from an epileptic fit.

there were four of us, the eldest who died, another brother, me and my younger sister.

shortly after the witnesses came knocking on my mums door.

creativhoney

Thanks everyone its great to meet you all, its good to meet people who have come out of bad experiences or even just find the strength to look here to get away. the other week I went to the doctor and she tried to make me join the alpha course. - can you imagine if I was a bit more unstable lol I may have gone on a killing spree....

all this takes time, its only been a year since my family left me and despite the upbringing you still feel the loss somehow. - its my brother, sister and six nephews and neices with their spouses etc and none of them have checked if I am ok. -probably because Im on some terriible downward spiral into sin and fornication.

how long does the ten post rule last? - is it a permanent thing or just for new members?

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Bethelite reverence

by Waffles in

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have any of you had the experience of a bethelite brother visiting your kh?.

here's how it always seemed to go in my experience:.

there is a general kh-wide excitement in the air that a real, live bethelite rockstar is at the hall; overheard are numerous convo's featuring words like "o, he's a bethelite".. visiting brother bethelite gives the closing prayer and is immediately mobbed by adoring fans.. all the single sisters are on high alert, you can smell the estrogen in the air.

creativhoney

Hmm its a paradox - on the outside they would never have ben my dream blokes - goody two shoes with the side partings and so on.. and it would seem so dull I would have never wanted to live at Bethel - Yawn.

but on the other hand.. - if they were really rockin porno bad boys, maybe it would have made sense to snag one after all!!1

**waiting till I can post more than ten times, have a signature or a photo**

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New to the Forum

by creativhoney in

hi i have been on a few days - im not sure how it all works but heres my history - maybe people can relate to it... well basically when i was nine years old my brother died from an epileptic fit.

there were four of us, the eldest who died, another brother, me and my younger sister.

shortly after the witnesses came knocking on my mums door.

creativhoney

Thank you for your kind comments! - I am sure there are plenty of great and like minds here - I am still trying to come to terms with it all. - its me and my kids and its hard because I will not have them guilted into it. - Ive already met some new people via facebook I am still under a psychologist - which I dont know how good its doing because it seems that no matter how much you talk about it theres no closure. maybe its really early days yet

ive noticed there are all sorts of people here in all stages from comfy to ironic to bitter to in denial to trying to find a network to help them escape.

oh and the other thing is i hope this ten post a day restriction is lifted soon, - its like a gagging order!! awful when you have so much to say!!