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  A Loving father.

  by creativhoney in

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  one parallel i always remember is that jehovah god is likened to a loving father.

  i have often wondered what kind of loving parent would go out indefinitely, not say where they were and leave their kids a vague and cryptic note of what to do while they were gone?

  i have wondered what kind of parent would make it hard for their kids to figure out exactly what was expected of them, or watch them fail miserably from a distance.

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  creativhoney

  one parallel I always remember is that Jehovah God is likened to a loving father.

  I have often wondered what kind of loving parent would go out indefinitely, not say where they were and leave their kids a vague and cryptic note of what to do while they were gone?

  I have wondered what kind of parent would make it hard for their kids to figure out exactly what was expected of them, or watch them fail miserably from a distance.

  Im assuming any parent like this would lose their kids until they sorted their heads out.

  anyone else ever wondered this? :)
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  Christ Alone vs IsaacAustin (blood)

  by isaacaustin in

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  2. beliefs

  the wt arbitrarily imposes a ban of 'whole blood' on its members, resulting in heartache, difficulty/delay in receiving medical care, and in many cases death.

  rather than focus on the relatively new allowance of blood fractions and the utter flaws in that logic to wt policy, we will focus on blood transfusions involving 'whole blood'.. christ alone, the restrictions on blood found in the ot, or hebrew scriptures if you will, were dietary restrictions on the eating of animal blood, and nothing more.

  the mosaic law forbade the eating of animal blood, as it was to be poured out on the ground.

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  the bible states that blood is life

  it also states that there is no greater gift I can give than lay down my life for my brother.

  does this mean I should give blood?
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  Where does all the JW money go?

  by LouBelle in

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  2. friends

  i want to know.. does every kingdom hall, bethel and assembly hall belong to the watchtower, bible & tract society?.

  each of those kingdom halls, bethels etc are built with the money obtained by that country's contributions.

  if a loan is needed the bothers of that specific congregation pay off the loan.. the society has then an extremely huge amount of property worth billions of $$$$ who has control of all those funds?

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  creativhoney

  The GB live a worry free, debt free, bill free lifestyle.

  at least they have never had a penny from me! my ex hub was too poor from putting the kingdom first (well after football) to put any money in the boxes! i certainly wasnt taking it away from my kids.
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  Where does all the JW money go?

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
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  i want to know.. does every kingdom hall, bethel and assembly hall belong to the watchtower, bible & tract society?.

  each of those kingdom halls, bethels etc are built with the money obtained by that country's contributions.

  if a loan is needed the bothers of that specific congregation pay off the loan.. the society has then an extremely huge amount of property worth billions of $$$$ who has control of all those funds?

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  do you think they have money? what do they do with it?
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  The most logical thing I've heard from an elder

  by biometrics in

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  he said: "<biometrics>, if you can't see 1914, and don't beleive the gb is god's only channel, there's not much point in discussing this any further"..

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  creativhoney

  faith is such a clever notion. it makes up for all the holes in religion.
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  Where does all the JW money go?

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i want to know.. does every kingdom hall, bethel and assembly hall belong to the watchtower, bible & tract society?.

  each of those kingdom halls, bethels etc are built with the money obtained by that country's contributions.

  if a loan is needed the bothers of that specific congregation pay off the loan.. the society has then an extremely huge amount of property worth billions of $$$$ who has control of all those funds?

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  all we get is 'worldwide work' and yet each assembly and meeting pays for itself. - yes apparently they build the KHs from their own contributions and the sign them straight over to the WBTS! dont ask me where it goes...
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  Venting some rage and pain.

  by jemba in

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  my father the coboe and much loved member of the cult has ignored me and my children 17yrs and 8yrs old for much of my life and all of my kids lives.

  i hate that religion for taking my father away and i hate him for being sucked in and putting all his love, time and kindness into the org and the stupid dubs and leaving himself too tired and uninterested in us.

  my kids dont have grandparents, my mum is ok, she rings me once a month but kinda ignores my kids, just gives em $50 each a yr as a substitute for love and attention.. .

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  hello - Im slightly confused by your post. - are you DFd or not? one part i see you say you arent then further down it seems like you are.

  - even so - Im sorry and no one should have to experience this.. and why do your children get shunned? - even when my mum didn't mix with me, she still saw my kids (16 and 14) since I met my 'worldly' husband she has had a normal relationship with me despite me being DFd and says that nothing would stop her being part of the lives of any of her grandchildren. Im fortunate my mum has a mind of her own despite some of the cult mentality that is hard wired into her brain.

  a wise friend once told me when i said i couldnt accept it 'you dont have to accept it, but you do have to learn to deal with it' - best advice i had been given - he was saying yes shunning is wrong and as such unacceptable, however you have to find a way to get on with your daily life without letting it ruin it.

  i saw this in the 'world' too - just generall people who have rubbish parents - my best friends dad has never been there for her - religion wasnt even a cover. he had a wife and other kids and she was the throwback mistake. - now in her 40s she doesnt even view him as a dad. she expects nothing and that way she cant be disappointed.

  i think sometimes they use the truth as an excuse - you have no way of knowing if he might just be a lazy and irresponsible parent anyway hiding behind religion as a cover.. .

  - dont fall into sadness, live your life, expect little and you wont be disappointed. - i grew up with no grandparents, your kids will be fine - they are losing out on a wonderful gift and you have that gift every day. - most of all be thankful that uyour children arent forced into that unhappy way of life. xxx
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  Scriptural Attendance

  by NeverKnew in

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  i'm watching a jw who is running himself into the ground.. before his last meeting, he sounded really agitated about his life's schedule.

  all i could think of was how the wts was in his way.

  2 service meetings a week (one where a presentation of some sort may have to be given).

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  well it's spiritual food. you wouldn't want to starve would you? if you don't eat regularly you will get sick...

  every now and then you get a banquet too.....
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  For NeverKnew: How to Crash a meeting

  by perfect1 in

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  2. friends

  in the chilling experience thread never knew asks a few questions about attending a meeting.. i thought i would dedicate a thread to answering this question- because my knowledge is a little outdated, please join in!.

  1. you will be scrutinized for your appearance.

  as a woman you are expected to wear a below knee length skirt or dress.

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  creativhoney

  Prepare to be bored....
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  The Watchtower Penitentiary

  by stuckinamovement in

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  learning the truth about the watchtower society can be very painful for a number of reasons.

  first, it is so disconcerting to realize that the core of your existence and the foundations of your beliefs are false that it can throw you for a real loop.

  as witnesses we are so confident in all of the answers we have been given, to questions that we never asked, that we mentally put ourselves up on a pedestal above the masses of poor, blind, wicked humanity.

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  creativhoney

  What is funny about it is, the cell doors were never locked, we just were told that they were.

  so true. once i realised the elders werent police and the consequenses of df didnt end my life - ie I awoke the next day and things hadnt changed much, I wondered why I had not done it earlier.

  THE ELDERS ARE NOT POLICE - YOU WILL NOT GO TO JAIL! YOU WILL GET OUT OF JAIL!