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  Trying to annul your baptism, WT says forget about it.

  by cattails in

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  the koolaid wt issue for february has an interesting article about when your baptism can be considered invalid.but the main thrust of the article is aimed at making it super clear that if you were present at your bapt.

  talk and answered the two questions then forget about it, elders are put on notice to not let anyone off the hook.but... if you were committing a serious sin and hid it at the time of your baptism, then it was invalid, and point is, they'd still announce you not being "one of j.w.s" so if you plead your case to walk away from the wt saying you didn't know what you were getting into, it will do no good, but it will be grounds for an announcement.just ol' mother wt tightening up loose ends.

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  bohm

  My screwy cousin actually got hit baptism annulled, but he also spend a couple of month in the mental hospital - so I wouldnt exactly recommend his approach

  Miss Bohm
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  Volunteering

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  when we were jw's we 'volunteered' our time to help others learn the 'truth'.. in what ways do you volunteer your time now that you are out and are free to help others as you see fit?.

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  When I finnish my study as a nurse, I hope to go to Africa with Doctors Without Borders, and help people in need.

  Untill then I just try to bee kind and helpful towards people in my daily life...

  Love, Miss Bohm
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  Ms. Bohms first post

  by bohm in

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  hey, im bohms girlfriend.. i have been arguing alot with bohm himself about the huge amount of time he spends in here:-) now i've decidet to look it out my self.. about me: i have growen up in the socalled "truth".

  i was baptised when i was 18 - because of an earlier boyfriend, who wouldnt be with me when i was not.

  now i really hate him for it... it would have been so much easier if ive never got baptised.

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  MINIMUS:

  ZIDDINA: The current plan is to roll over and more or less pretend ms. bohm has lost her marbles [not far from the tru... oh are you still here honey?]. hopefully they wont df/da her if we keep repeating it is the 'truth' but just cant handle the meetings right now. By the way, love the 'witch'.

  .-mr. bohm.
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  Ms. Bohms first post

  by bohm in

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  hey, im bohms girlfriend.. i have been arguing alot with bohm himself about the huge amount of time he spends in here:-) now i've decidet to look it out my self.. about me: i have growen up in the socalled "truth".

  i was baptised when i was 18 - because of an earlier boyfriend, who wouldnt be with me when i was not.

  now i really hate him for it... it would have been so much easier if ive never got baptised.

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  Hey, Im Bohms girlfriend.

  I have been arguing alot with Bohm himself about the huge amount of time he spends in here:-) Now i've decidet to look it out my self.

  About me: I have growen up in the socalled "truth". I was baptised when I was 18 - because of an earlier boyfriend, who wouldnt be with me when I was not. Now I really hate him for it... It would have been so much easier if ive never got baptised. A month after my baptism I got into "troubles" and I got restrictions from the elders. Ever since things have been going up and down. My dad was at that time a leading elder in the cong. Because of me he had to announce that he could no longer be that. I am now 22 and since my baptism I havent really lived by the rules.

  I have just moved to a new city, Im together with Bohm - whos not a witness - we have been together for about 1 year. My parents still dont want to see him. They are very sad - and dissappointed because of me. That makes me feel just terrible...but I dont believe in the religion no more.

  Some elders in my new city have started stalkin me now - Im not attending meetings (havent been doing that for about 1 year)... Im very afraid and do not answer their calls and do not open the door. Im getting paranoid... Im so afraid to get DF and to loose my parents.

  Really - I just want to fade....without loosing my parents.. I have allready lost all of my JW friends.

  I once thougth that religion was all about love...I now know that is simply a lie.

  I cant understand why people are so eager to DF me...I just feel like a very little girl, all alone, and with best intentions for everyone...

  Love, Miss Bohm
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  Elders in my cong are unbeleivable!!!

  by nearlyfree in

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  i havent been to a meeting for over 3 months now, i wanted to do a slow fade, going to a meeting everynow and then just to keep the elders of my back but couldnt face going to another meeting..... anyway my daughter still is attending the meetings, and in that time that i have not been there no one has asked her how i am, until last night at the meeting an elder comes up to her and asks her why i havent been to the meetings, and if he and a new elder in the cong can come over tonight and talk to me!!!!!

  i couldnt believe it when she told me!!!!!

  !how sneaky are they to try and organize through my daughter to come and see me, you would think that they would ring me and talk directly to me, i was so mad, that i felt like ringing up the elder and telling him exactly what i thought of him, but decided it was not a good idea incase i started going on about "apostate stuff" i tend to get bit carried away when i am angry........ .

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  nearlyfree: Sneaky bastards :-). I am also involved in a fade and fear the elder calls, so keep us posted on what you say IF they deside to call you!
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  New (non Witness) here

  by juci32 in

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  hello guys!i am just introducing myself here.

  i have been visiting this site for about a year but never really posted much but i have really learned and enjoyed the topics on this forum, in fact i think this is the best discussion forum i have yet to come across .. a little about my situation is i am a non religious person married to a devout witness, when i met him 4 yrs ago he was out in the "world", never really mentioned his beliefs as we were enjoying life without it.

  the more we dated the more i realized that something wasn't right.

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  hey!

  I am really sorry to bring you bad news, but you are in for a very tough fight. Some psychologists would say your husband is under influence of what they call 'mind control', ie. he has been manipulated into believing what the witnesses say in a way that makes it very hard for him to escape; he is not really himself. (Some has even described changes in body posure, speech patterns, facial expression (Especially eyes) when that happends).

  I have never been a witness myself and i am just beginning to understand the psychological side, but from the stories i have heard here that is definately the place to begin - if he is as devote as you describe him, you wont go anywhere no matter how good your arguments are. Therefore i would recommend you to read a bit about mind control and what a person can do about it, you might want to start at the 'psychology' section on freeminds.org, otherwise i would recommend you to read the 'canonical' reference, stephen hassans 'releasing the bonds'.

  If you want information for yourself to prove to yourself how it is not gods organization (and be able to win arguments with him), try borrowing 'Crisis of Consciousness' by Raymond Franz or take at look at the excelent info on jwfacts.com. But again, this will properly be of more help to you than to him...

  When i hear your husbands story, especially how he behaved before you got married, i get the impression the roots of his devotion are some underlying problem he has a hard time dealing with? IF that is the case, that might be a key to 'solve' the jw problem.

  Most importantly, listen to the advice the more experienced members here have. The 'best of' section is also a pretty good place to begin.
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  need lawyerly advice about DA

  by Watkins in

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  haven't been around for a while - nice to see so many still around, alive an' kickin'!

  here's what's bothering me - i want to request the return of any records bearing my name at my former kh.

  i want it to be like i was never even there, call me 'casper', lol.

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  WATKINS: IANAL but I dont see why you should disassociate at the same time... thats playing by their rules and if there is a legal basis for demanding all records with your name back from them it will have nothing to do with a DA.

  Btw. you should properly write what country you are from :-).
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  Satan is not that smart, is he?

  by dgp in

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  i was just reading brenda lee's "out of the cocoon" and found an idea that i share just to let some steam off.. according to the fable, satan (this guy .

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  bohm

  Satan has an interesting psychology. The reason he rebelled is mentioned in genesis: He wanted to be worshipped. Why jehovah created him with that desire is difficult to understand.
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  An atheist and a creationist are walking along a riverbank . . . .

  by nicolaou in

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  the course of this river has obviously been designed, it's avoiding every single tree on the riverbank!.

  creationist: are you trying to tell me that all those plants know where the riverbank is?.

  atheist: no one designed the river!

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  bohm

  The important thing to keep in mind with Behe is that his original claims have all been destroyed:

  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html

  I didnt even know he was still considered relevant in the debate :-).
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  Article: Will Jehovah’s Witnesses Abandon Brooklyn Heights?

  by dutchstef in

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  read an article in the "brookling daily eagle, here's the link:.

  http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=10&id=31501.

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  bohm

  I think it is safe to draw the conclusion that the GB no longer think armageddon is right around the corner.