http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
see last item:.
"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".
Wonderful! Nothing like having the actual video of the garbage the WT lawyers spout.
The parents are brainwashed, the elders are brainwashed but the leaders (gb) and their lawyers have known for years exactly what they are doing!! They will be exposed through these court cases. Just imagian the day they finally have to turn over those massive files of molesters they have protected, what a happy day that will be.
standing up for yourself,and deciding to follow your own path takes strength .
you have to be strong especially if you were raised in a way of life that dictated so much of who you were .
while being raised as a jehovah's witness i was taught to follow ,unquestionally follow .i was told to put others before myself ,serve,don't stand out ,don't be independent .
What a great post.
there really is so much good on this forum, sometimes that means skipping over some threads (race) that upset me and focus on the many others that encourage us to be better and stronger.
my question is prompted by a post of terry's on his own thread about a parable for jw's.
in that post terry shows how the standard jw response to any report of sex abuse within the borg is to use the "no true scotsman" fallacy.. i.e "he was not a real jw".. my question is for some time in the future, when the true, horrendous, extent of abuse within the borg is public knowledge, and the cognitive dissonance grows for jw's about this being endemic in "god's organization" for so long, how will they excuse it, or explain it, then ?.
how will they push away the obvious conclusion that jehovah must have approved of this going on, or he would have rectified it, not left it to the courts to pick up the broken pieces years later ?.
As in the the song Let It Go they choose to "conceal, don't feel."
They have to put that wall up in order to protect their perceived "truth" I've seen with my own eyes that wall go up with my own family members. No matter what proof you have, their minds just shut down. They can blame the molester and even possibly the local elders for doing things wrong but when it comes to their GB or their policy's they shut down.
just learned today direct from my beloved daughter that she has been abused between 5 and 12 years old by 2 brothers (her own cousins) and 1 family "friend".
she has attempted suicide a few days ago.
luckily she is living and she is not physically injured.
I'm so sorry:(
You are doing the right thing, continue to surround her with love and support and please do something I didn't when my daughter told us of her abuse. Don't allow her to speak with the elders, leave it to the proper legal authorities when she is ready. The elders will only make it worse with their questioning and most likely it will be for nothing.
i just buried my beloved poddle, little brother.
he died suddenly.
i know to most people that is not an important event.
Very sad:( Its so hard to lose a furry family member. I still miss my beloved doggy.
brief history:.
i was a born in.
my parents were uber-dubs, but never worshipped the organization.
That's wonderful.
My mom has recently has done quite a turn around as well, I sure hope it lasts.
the title says it all, do you think that the gb will ever bring up these cases in their literature or in a talk?
i'm not talking about them just mentioning "persecution" i'm talking about actually bringing up child abuse cases and trying to justify it.. or will it just remain the elephant in the room until years have passed?.
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I very much doubt they will ever come clean and admit the huge elephant in the room. I also doubt they will ever apologize to the many victims they have damaged.
Just look at their past...
Organ Transpants for one.
I just had a huge heart to heart with my very active mother about this and she admitted many in the congregations are struggling with this. Many want to see changes as well, and many do know about this! I guess it's kinda hard to ignore something that is making the news.
http://m.ustream.tv/channel/zalkinlawpress.
saw this on another forum and wasn't sure if anyone shared it here.. .
http://m.ustream.tv/channel/zalkinlawpress
Saw this on another forum and wasn't sure if anyone shared it here.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hit-with-another-lawsuit-alleging-child-sexual-abuse-organization-has-paid-over-13-million-in-damages-130490/.
Wow! The WTS is really being hammered! I'm sure they hate the name Zelkin.
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/2014/11/29/david-dennis-gunnislakeharrowbarrow/.
david dennis gunnislake/harrowbarrow.
29 saturday nov 2014. posted by author in cornwall.
It just keeps coming.... I'm so happy, yet so sad at the same time.
So many victims have been through such horrific abuse, not only by the abuser but by the religion they trusted.
I just wish them all the best and hope they are getting the help they need.
