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My Presentation - Wesley from Brazil
by wesleywws inhello to all, i am wesley of brazil.
of the city of lavras, in the state of minas gerais.
i am dissociated of this sect since september of 2008. today work to help people to see the dangers of this religion.
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My experience at the District Convention today - Appreciate your comments
by BonaFide ini know i am the one to constantly harp on this board how the organization has lost its "swagger" and the baptism and attendance is going down, and people are waking up.. not so fast.. the audience cried, i mean a lot of people cried when they played some of the songs from the new songbook.
some had bethel singers who sounded pretty good singing them.
so many after the program were saying how touched they were.. then the new release of the book showing how the book of acts prefigures the organization today.
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awildflower
I'm just excited to be able to tell my JW friend that I already know all the new releases, the drama, and half the parts on the District this year! And I'm just the girl, what do they know! It's going to be funny to see his reaction! But I'm going to tell him that I'm sure he'll enjoy it completely because it is the highlight of their year! I work in the cleaning buisness and at times my boss and I will catch ourselves getting excited over a new cleaning product or device and think how pathetic, that we need to get a life! This is the same thing! Excited over a new song book? Wow........
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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall
by Hobo Ken inthis is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.
he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.
this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.
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awildflower
This is my first time listening to one of your podcasts, since I'm pretty knew here. Something that struck me that this elder said, was that ' Anne is confused and that is a common reaction to this type of situation (leaving the org)' , not in those exact words of course. That was so frustrating to me because, I don't know about any of you but since my fade, I have never felt better! What this elder considers 'confused', I would say, in my case, was my mind opening up to the endless possiblilities of life. I've been flooded with more knowledge from books other than the WTS literature, then at any other time in my life and to me it's been exciting to learn new things! Yes, at first I would say I got a little overwhelmed, like you would be walking into a huge buffet, but once I found my balance, I've learned to enjoy everything that comes my way. I've learned to 'feel' if things are right with the Universe, and not be sucked into another 'belief' about certain things. To me if something has the smack of love, joy, peace, etc......then it can be useful in my life but if not it's out! And I can't find to many things in this org to hang onto based on that criteria!
Having said that, if we are really at peace about our dicission to leave, and we really don't care what they decided to do in their lives, they should be able to 'feel' that when we are confronted. They (the elders or other JW's) should be able to sense that there is something different about us in a good way, that there is going to be nothing they could say to us to change our minds before one word is even spoken! In fact, they should look at us and actually want what we have, this peace of mind! That is a long shot but that's how it should be. I understand calling these men on their lies and hypocricy if that's where we are in this journey, but IMO it does nothing for the cause of showing just how truly happy and at peace we really are for leaving. But of course, maybe not all of us are there yet and that's ok to, it's part of a journey. I just feel for Hobo Ken in that, although his points were valid, they got NOWHERE with this person. To me it would be more powerful to just smile and say 'brother I wish you the best and if there's anything you ever need from me don't hesitate to ask', or something like that.( But also, there is a way to confront these things from a very powerful knowing inside of us that makes a difference in how we would confront them as well.) We will not win trying to change them, or even having a conversation with them about any of it. One of the things that always bothered me about JW's is that they were miserable most of the time! Why would I want to be them? Let's give them the opposite, make them ask, 'what does she have that I would like to have'. It has to be genuine, which means it has to come from the natural course of your journey, and it will. Just some thoughts on it all........wildflower
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I'm Sick
by sammielee24 in..to death of jw junk....here is the summary of the 3 hour discussion we just had with a couple of long term jw's...past elders - still entrenched with absolute control.
a lot of things brought out and here is what they said:.
- the wts is far less rigid than it was ever before.
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awildflower
Great, now I'm sick to!........
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Looking for Okla. people
by crapola inwould like to get to know some people from okla. who have decided to leave org.or at least chat on this site with you and see what all we have in common.
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awildflower
Hey guys, I live in Moore..........
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1 year sober today...it can be done!
by digderidoo injust wanted to post here to say i am now 1 year sober.
funny thing is i don't miss drink at all, it took a 3 or 4 months of hard work about 18 months ago and have not looked back since.. this is my first thread about the aa, posted january 2008.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/150354/1/went-to-aa-meeting-last-night.
i would encourage anyone who thinks they may have a problem to get help, it is out there.. since i have become sober i am now doing a law degree, took up scuba diving, got my kids involved in snorkelling, scuba, horse riding and shooting.
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awildflower
Big Congrats Paul, you are doing a great job! Be proud.........
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District Convention
by helpaJWwife inmy husband and i had a "planned" getaway for memorial day weekend.
he told me to choose the place, i chose maine....needless to say he was thrilled, portland so happened to be hosting the district convention that weekend....he did attend some of it, not me...i went shopping..they released a new book...for those of you who are interested...over 5000 in attendance.
scary well dressed white people with crazy kids...thats about it...enjoy!
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awildflower
I lived in Maine for three years it's wonderful this time of year! Old Orchard is a blast. Great choice for vacation!
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awildflower
It's not evolution vs creation........it's the evolution OF creation!
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Which 5 Books Would You Recommend?
by leavingwt inwhich 5 books would you recommend?.
there is a wealth of information, just waiting to be shared with persons who have an open mind and a desire to know the truth about the watchtower society.
please list five books (more or less) that you would recommend to new ones.. i hope to discover something new from your lists.
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awildflower
I like Tolle 'stuff' poppers! There's so many great suggestions on here, can't wait to add them to my library. I feel like for the first time in my life I'm actually learning! The same ol' WT propaganda just wasn't cutting it anymore! The thing is to, they told us "we are the best spiritually fed people on the planet!" Little did I know until I actually picked up another book! Now I can see more than ever how JW's are actually starving!
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For those of you going to meetings, assemblies or conventions, try this.....
by awildflower inthe last official 'meeting' i went to was in january at our two day assembly.
believe me i didn't want to go but i did and took a different kind of notes.
for one i wrote down in my note book words like "faithful and discreet slave", gb, organization, fruits of the spirit, jesus, and put a check mark next to each time i heard one of them, (just like when we were kids guys!).
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awildflower
Absolutely!