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  What Is Your Hope Now???

  by YYHWH in

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  my hope for over 30 years was the same as many here on this site.

  when i made my decesion to no longer me a jw at first i just figured that i was a goat and that i would just die at armageddon along with all the other wicked ones.

  well after doing some research on the dubs and on religion in general i have come to some differnt conclusions about life,death and what might happen when you die.. i have to be honest and tell you that it has been difficult to accept the fact that any hope of any sort of life after death is very unfounded.. i have come to believe that religion is for people who cannot accept the only certainty we have in this life is that you are going to die.. my hope is that i can live this life and be able to raise my children up to be responsible and productive adults.

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  Hi Happy,

  I wonder, do you really understand all the points made? I made two that were very different from what the rest said. I couldn't understand everything you wrote, but I'll try to reply based on my best guess.

  Living in the present does not mean you don't care about your future - rather there's just no fantasizing about what "might be" based on wishful thinking. It doesn't mean that I don't have goals or aspire to do anything, but I just see them as possibilities rather than something to hang on to in lieu of the present reality. It's not a matter of "let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we will die."

  As for ownership, it is also a matter of being realistic. Often we will say we "have friends", or "have" the brotherhood or what have you - but is it really something that is absolutely yours, and something that can never be taken away from you? Most people don't like to think about that, but I think it's just a matter of what expectations you have. If you expect nothing, then anything you receive is a gift, even if it is temporary.

  Friend, I would invite you to look at where your hope lies, and see if they are real. A key point is where in time you are placing your hope, but also in what. I am glad you are happy, but if that happiness is not based on anything substantial then you may be in for a big disappointment.
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  Has Anyone Invited You to the Memorial?

  by Prisca in

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  the memorial is on in just over two weeks' time, and i was wondering:.

  has anyone invited you to the memorial yet?.

  my old cong knows my address and phone number yet no-one has visited or phoned to invite me.

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  They just came yesterday, and although I wasn't surprised it would indicate that I'm not being shunned completely yet. This is good as far as I'm concerned, because I would welcome any dialogue they may want to start. But of course, as it is most dubs are not up to it and it certainly didn't seem like these two ladies were, although one did note that I looked happy - so I guess that was a "good witness." I don't think I should push so that I'm not completely shunned, and I figure if they're really ready they may take the initiative.

  "Who can face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth?" -Rush, Distant Early Warning
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  Remember A.I. ?

  by Introspection in

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  i know we talked about it when it was playing in the theaters, but i'm too lazy to look up that thread and i think it was in the main forum anyway.

  i just got the dvd and watched half of it.

  if you haven't seen it it's definitely worth renting.

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  Have those of you who've seen AI seen Blade Runner?
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  Remember A.I. ?

  by Introspection in

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  i know we talked about it when it was playing in the theaters, but i'm too lazy to look up that thread and i think it was in the main forum anyway.

  i just got the dvd and watched half of it.

  if you haven't seen it it's definitely worth renting.

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  I know we talked about it when it was playing in the theaters, but I'm too lazy to look up that thread and I think it was in the main forum anyway. I just got the DVD and watched half of it. If you haven't seen it it's definitely worth renting. If you have, wanna talk about it?
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  How do you like them apples??

  by Introspection in

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  read this little story in a meditation book:.

  a friend's son was in the first grade of school, and his teacher asked the class, "what is the color of apples?

  " most of the children answered red.

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  Read this little story in a meditation book:

  A friend's son was in the first grade of school, and his teacher asked the class, "What is the color of apples?" Most of the children answered red. A few said green. Kevin, my friend's son, raised his hand and said white. The teacher tried to explain that apples could be red, green, or sometimes golden, but never white. Kevin was quite insistent and finally said, "Look inside."

  And the moral of the story is... Don't ask kids inane questions, they may make a fool out of you.
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  Could be good, could be bad!

  by new boy in

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  over a 100 years ago there lived a poor mexican pedro.

  one day his son left the the barn door open, his only horse {his chief sourse of income} got out.

  everyone said "poor pedro you are in big trouble now!

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  LOL Simon, when I first read that I thought it was some kind of bullying thing, bizarre hazing ritual or what have you...
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  Thank you simon

  by chezza in

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  hi simon, firstly i would like to say thank you for allowing us to post on here, its been a real eye opener for me to see that there are other people out in the world like me, that we are not the freaks after all, when i first got disfellowshipped i thought it was a terrible thing, that i was leaving the truth, now, after spending around a month on here i can see i never was in the truth, so thank you for letting me see that.. also can i say its refreshing to see someone admit when they make a mistake, like you did in the thread by sf, thank you for not being too proud to listen.

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  (sang to the tune of "We Thank You Jehovah")

  "We thank you, oh Simon, each day and each night.. For this place to post things and (rhymes with night)..."
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  I'm screwed..........

  by butalbee in

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  2. relationships

  i went w/ my ex to the hall tonight, don't remember much except walking in, hiding in the bathroom for half hour, and dodging all the schmoozing when trying to exit the building.

  i also remember my ex holding my hand and smiling at me.

  it was a happy smile, like "i am so glad you're here w/ me", but it hinted of evil intentions.

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  Bee I'm sorry if you've posted this already, but do you have some support over there, people you can talk to in person? Because it does seem like you know all this intellectually, maybe what you need is a friend over there that you can be with. (and not him)
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  What Is Your Hope Now???

  by YYHWH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my hope for over 30 years was the same as many here on this site.

  when i made my decesion to no longer me a jw at first i just figured that i was a goat and that i would just die at armageddon along with all the other wicked ones.

  well after doing some research on the dubs and on religion in general i have come to some differnt conclusions about life,death and what might happen when you die.. i have to be honest and tell you that it has been difficult to accept the fact that any hope of any sort of life after death is very unfounded.. i have come to believe that religion is for people who cannot accept the only certainty we have in this life is that you are going to die.. my hope is that i can live this life and be able to raise my children up to be responsible and productive adults.

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  Actually I don't have much. To most people that probably sounds sad, but I guess I just try to enjoy what I "have" presently. (also gave up ownership - actually don't believe I ever "had" it )

  Something funny as it relates to relationships:
  

  George: I don't want hope. Hope is killing me. My dream is to become hopeless. When you're hopeless you don't care. And when you don't care, that indifference makes you attractive.
  Jerry: So, hopelessness is the key?
  George: It's my only hope.--Seinfeld
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  I thought this was a good description...

  by taoInitiate in

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  the world is full of half-enlightened masters.. overly clever,.

  too "sensitive" to live in the real world,.

  they surround themselves with selfish pleasures,.

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  Actually, I kind of doubt they can even be said to be half-enlightened. Sorry, I guess as far as I'm concerned they don't even measure up to this.