Just thinking about the Churchhill coverup story. Seems theres alot of people around claiming to have seen UFO's etc
Whereas the amount of people claiming to have seen/heard god ....?
What do you think?
just thinking about the churchhill coverup story.
seems theres alot of people around claiming to have seen ufo's etc.
whereas the amount of people claiming to have seen/heard god ....?.
Just thinking about the Churchhill coverup story. Seems theres alot of people around claiming to have seen UFO's etc
Whereas the amount of people claiming to have seen/heard god ....?
What do you think?
i realised today that life is so much more of a pleasure now that i can read what i what at my own place.. in the borg i had to constantly read read read the magazines , the latest books, the latest brochures, the meeting prep, the daily scripture and my own personal study.
most of the time i would just speed read in an effort to "get in done", how pathetic is that!?.
now days i can read as much or as little as i want.
I realised today that life is so much more of a pleasure now that i can read what i what at my own place.
In the borg i had to constantly read read read the magazines , the latest books, the latest brochures, the meeting prep, the daily scripture and my own personal study. Most of the time i would just speed read in an effort to "get in done", how pathetic is that!?
Now days i can read as much or as little as i want. I can also take my time to enjoy what i'm reading too.
i've seen evangelical sites that show dinosaurs dying in the great flood.
these people believe that god created the earth in seven 24-hour days, and have wondered that if god could just "speak" the earth into existence, why he would need the other six days.
(couldn't he just will it into existence in a flash?).
good point wobble, and congrats on being able to interperate my spelling mistakes:)
Dib Dib!
i've seen evangelical sites that show dinosaurs dying in the great flood.
these people believe that god created the earth in seven 24-hour days, and have wondered that if god could just "speak" the earth into existence, why he would need the other six days.
(couldn't he just will it into existence in a flash?).
They really have no explanation for the dinos, but i have heard a die hard JW say that staurn has planted those bones and fossils in order to mislead mankind! Anyone remember the award winning BBC program "walking with dinosaurs" we weren't allowed to watch that as it promoted evoultion.
Seriously though, if they crow on and on about the bible saying the earth was a curcile when everyone else thought it was flat and therefore its sciencfiticaly correct then why dosn't the bible say anything about something like the dinosaurs? If ever there was an arguement to disprove the bible that the one.
If the dinos had died out in the flood then the ocean going dinos would still have survived and would still be around today... unless you count Nessie;)
Makes me laugh to think of the disquiet of the JW parents when their little boys would be fansinated by the dinosaurs as all little boys pretty much are!
also known as cubs and brownies i belive.
i always wanted to join them when i was a child.
i had freinds at school who were in and loved hearing the tales of what they got up to.
Also known as cubs and brownies i belive. I always wanted to join them when i was a child. I had freinds at school who were in and loved hearing the tales of what they got up to. The cook outs and the camping trips etc. Whats more i could see that they were also learning some very valauble life skills too.
But of course i wasn't allowed to join why?:
1) because it would take up the time that should have been spent preparing for the meetings
2) because insitutions like that were only there to prepare children to join the army! Thats why they exisited!
Shame theres not an adult version of the girl guides! I'd join it now...
i was recalling many jw familes i used to know who would saturate themselves in the borg:.
at home and in the car they would have the kingdom melodies playing or a talk playing in the background.. their kids were given jw themed crossword puzzles to solve.
the pictures on the walls were taken from the wt illistrations.
... i remember the bible themed games at getogethers... when we were still allowed to have them that is. Seriously painful!
I also knew JW's who always left tracts or magazines on view when they parked their cars. This was with the idea that thevies if they saw the literiture would leave their car alone because they knew the reputation of the JW's how honest they were bla bla bla puke puke puke!
this is gonna be my very first time as a ms.. i'll be on leave for about 3 weeks.. our cong.
is still up and coming, and there is a need for brothers.
right now there is only one elder, 2 ms's including me.. elder told me if i work hard enough and display my love for jehovah, then they will make me an acting secretary in no time.so i am working my a*s off to get that "position".. .
i'm getting the serious impression that your really proud of yourself arn't you! Well you gotta hand it to the borg they really do know how to suck someone back in. Particularly it has to be said competiative men who want to climb the JW ladder to bloaster their own ego...
It would indeed! There were so many from my old congo would i now recognise did a fade. And even more that went apostate. Of course i dutifully lost touch with them all.
But considering the high proportion over the years it wouldn't surprise me.
an update on me: i seem to be swinging from one state to another recently.
some days i will feel very peacefull within myself about the borg and my experiances in it.
i will feel like i'm almost able to forgive all those cult members who made my life hell.. ... and then the pendulam swings and i find myself remembering something about them that makes me just so furious!
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An update on me: i seem to be swinging from one state to another recently. Some days i will feel very peacefull within myself about the borg and my experiances in it. I will feel like i'm almost able to forgive all those cult members who made my life hell.
... and then the pendulam swings and i find myself remembering something about them that makes me just so furious! So furious that i find myself wishing a JW would turn up on my doorstep just so i could yell at them!
The fury i admit tends to resurface in dreams and nightmares. This is when i relive the horrible events of my past but normally with the addition that instead of just meeking accepting their abuse i now lash out and start screaming at them.
I'm back on the "highdose" again i'm afraid, wasn't managing without it:(
So... is this normal? Have any of you gone through the same thing in your recovery process?
i was recalling many jw familes i used to know who would saturate themselves in the borg:.
at home and in the car they would have the kingdom melodies playing or a talk playing in the background.. their kids were given jw themed crossword puzzles to solve.
the pictures on the walls were taken from the wt illistrations.
I was recalling many JW familes i used to know who would saturate themselves in the borg:
At home and in the car they would have the kingdom melodies playing or a talk playing in the background.
Their kids were given JW themed crossword puzzles to solve
the pictures on the walls were taken from the WT illistrations
Often favorite scriptures would be printed out and posted throughout the house, my particular favorite was one above the TV, can't remember the scripture but it was one used to warn JW's off the TV. The only videos and DVD's on the shelfs were JW ones, and maybe a few wildlife ones.
When they sent me cards it would always be from the ones produced by the borg, showing a flowerbed at the bethal or a assembly hall in mexico etc etc
Its almost like they couldn't bear to turn off the brainwashing for a second! Even when i was in i thought this was sooo sad!