for family reasons, gorby and his wife and children has to visit the hall at april 14. our family accept that we are faders, but don't accept if we do not visit the memorial.. so, it seems a small investment: one evening love bombing for a year peace and rest.. but i hate the visit.
headache.
meeting the people knowing it's all fake love showing.. how do you get through it?.
For family reasons, Gorby and his wife and children has to visit the hall at april 14. Our family accept that we are faders, but don't accept if we do not visit the memorial.
So, it seems a small investment: one evening love bombing for a year peace and rest.
But I hate the visit. Headache. Meeting the people knowing it's all fake love showing.
How do you get through it?
Gorby
in this past sunday's watchtower lesson, which has been discussed at length on this board, the gb/writing committee used a key weasal word that we will probably see again.
the exact quote is: "we understand that in mentioning 'this generation,' jesus was referring to two groups of anointed christians.".
this goofy teaching is merely a patch until they can devise something more plausible, or until some event occurs that they can latch onto that will make this teaching more acceptable to the r&f.
It's the cafetaria mdel. Choose what suits for the moment.
hey everyone i'm new here.
i'm not baptised but i've been qoute on qoute 'studying' for the past 4-5 years.
i'm almost 20. i've been lurking and i've seen a lot of posts about elderettes.
It's well known in our family history, that my grandmother was an Elderette. SHE WROTE THE PUBLIC TALK FOR MY GRANDFATHER!
When I think about this, I have to smile. JW's are sometimes just normal people ((:
Gorby
does anyone personally know jws serving on the writing committee?.
what is their outlook regarding the end; are they still truly convinced?.
are they expressing doubts or seem demotivated?.
Those who write the nonsense are the one who invented the new nonsense.
So, they are those who know its a cover up.
In the catholic church they say the cardinal and above them do not believe in God. JW's organization is the same.
Gorby
with a house full with relatives someone knocked at the window.. a local elder was on the doorstep.. he told me we are missed and as i could expect they worried.. i told him see you then.. my frisian blood came up and i think the elder left not that happy.. gorby.
With a house full with relatives someone knocked at the window.
A local elder was on the doorstep.
He told me we are missed and as I could expect they worried.
I told him see you then.
My frisian blood came up and I think the elder left not that happy.
Gorby
i was raised with this belief, that we would never die and actually make it into the "new system".
mu faithful jw aunt still talked about my mother (her sister) and her walking together into the great tribulation--- and never die at all!
she spoke of that 2 days before she passed away.. i believe most witnesses expect to die and then get resurrected.
Our CO told our congregation that most of us will reach paradise by the underground. He ment the graveyard.
It was totaly silence when he spoke this words.
Gorby
with the decease of guy pierce, i was thinking tonight about the day i shook hands with albert d. schroeder.. it was during his zone visit talk in a convention hall in the netherlands.
i was 12 and walked with my father in the hall.
a lot of people around someone.
With the decease of Guy Pierce, I was thinking tonight about the day I shook hands with Albert D. Schroeder.
It was during his zone visit talk in a convention hall in The Netherlands. I was 12 and walked with my father in the hall. There were
a lot of people around someone. My father told me "There he is, give him a handshake".
I walked - a litle bit shy - to him. He was very tall from my point of view. He watched to me strict and asked in German
"Sprechen sie Deutsch?". I answered "Ein bisschen". He answered "Ah, ein bisschen!" and went away.
It was not a nice chat. It felt somehow strange. He behaved like he was far above us, the rank and file.
Since then, I did not like those men anymore.
Gorby
here in the netherlands (extreme liberal) i hear more and more jw children about having attended a birthday party.. it seems that the more liberal jw's here have no problem with it.. gorby.
Here in The Netherlands (extreme liberal) I hear more and more JW children about having attended a birthday party.
It seems that the more liberal JW's here have no problem with it.
Gorby
maybe you remember my post about my experience 3 weeks ago, waking up crying loud because i was dreaming about my mentaly disabled brother.. i am sure it was a warning sign.
my brother is now hospialized and in a half coma situation.. my parents are broken and on dinial, thinking he will be the same as before the incident.. they are praying for armageddon, so he will be a normal healthy person.. today i visited them all and did see the effect of the watchtower unrealistic predictions and how this mentally effect my parents.. i pray for my brother he will have no pain during this stage of his life.. so, the dream seems a signal, an alarm signal for me.
maybe my brother, who can not speak at all, sended it out to me, living 100 km away.. gorby.
Maybe you remember my post about my experience 3 weeks ago, waking up crying loud because I was dreaming about my mentaly disabled brother.
I am sure it was a warning sign. My brother is now hospialized and in a half coma situation.
My parents are broken and on dinial, thinking he will be the same as before the incident.
They are praying for Armageddon, so he will be a normal healthy person.
Today I visited them all and did see the effect of the watchtower unrealistic predictions and how this mentally effect my parents.
I pray for my brother he will have no pain during this stage of his life.
So, the dream seems a signal, an alarm signal for me. Maybe my brother, who can not speak at all, sended it out to me, living 100 km away.
Gorby
tell us a little about yourself and your family.. im a 45 year old female.
married age 18 to another jw (pos son), became the mother of two wonderful children, girl and boy (now adults), divorced and dfd when i was 33 years old and since 2008 married to my first love who used to be my classmate when i was 16 (but got kicked out of my life by my dad b/c he wasnt a jw).. were you a born in or a convert?.
my grandmother from fathers side, my parents, 2 of my 3 sisters and their husbands (one is an elder) and kids, my brother and his wife and children, and the wifes of my two uncles are all still jw (uncles both have faded, but their cult personas are still intact, unfortunately).
Hi, great to see another Dutch ((: There are some more at JWD.
Gorby
