Great topic, Lee!
Gorbatchov
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Coming to terms with the Watchtower experience
by Lee Elder init is a challenge coming to terms with your experience as a jehovah's witness.
if you were born and raised as a jw, and your parents were true believers, the impact on your life is profound, lasting, and largely negative.
in some cases quite abusive emotionally, spiritually, financially, educationally and yes, even sexually.. i recently watched "trumbo", and was quite moved by dalton trumbo's speech to the screen writers guild in 1970. here is an excerpt that i think is quite relevant to this topic:.
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New Memorial Songs Were Very Good, IMO
by RubaDub ini guess we can agree to differ, but i personally found the new memorial songs (147, 149) to be very good, at least from a musical perspective.
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Gorbatchov
I didn't like them. Translation into our little European language is always a problem.
Melody was a weak version of the Lion King theme.
It's so pathetic, the American dream.
Gorby
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Gorby and his family went to the memorial. Just for family reasons. To keep the communication lines open.
I have to say, I don't like to go but has to do it for the good sake.
Some were happy to see us, some talked to us, and most of them didn't show any interest.
Because of our fade I can see them now from more distance and have to say how overdone the JW
behavior is during the memorial. They look uber people, gods personal selected people on earth with their "kingdom smile". It feels that they have no respect for people who make other choices.
The memorial ritual is weird when you look at it from more distance. Paying respect to the bread and wine,
knowing that it's not for you.
When it was over, I did a little chat with some with real interest, about his electric bike, speeding
every day through our street. Fun.
And then we made the long walk from our chairs to our jackets and entrance through a mass of people watching you with a grimace, knowing that most of them don't give a sh*t about you and talk behind you're back when you left the building.
Gorby
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A New Watchtower trade name: Hudson Valley
by Gorbatchov inwatchtower and trading business is a never ending combination, now under the new name of hudson valley, selling their building machines online: .
http://used-tools-equipment.com.
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Sir82, when you see all the expensive vehicles, that's the big question. Why do they own it, and don't lease it or hire a contractor?!? G. -
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A New Watchtower trade name: Hudson Valley
by Gorbatchov inwatchtower and trading business is a never ending combination, now under the new name of hudson valley, selling their building machines online: .
http://used-tools-equipment.com.
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Watchtower and trading business is a never ending combination, now under the new name of Hudson valley, selling their building machines online:
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An old friend in another appearance: used-tools-equipment.com (Hudson Valley - WTS shell)
by Gorbatchov insince 1995 gorby likes to investigate the organizational behind the jehovah's witnesses, and is working now on a publication about it.
i will keep you updated about that.
now, in the memorial week, i found a new watchtower trade brand under the wings of kingdom support service, inc. and it's name is hudson valley.
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Zeb, they are just selling their used equipment now the Warwick location is build.
What I see is the continues correlation between the WTS and a trading company.
And the enormous cost the WTS has been spending on this project. It's unbelievable they
have own cranes and heavy machines with a worth of > 200.000 dollar each.
We can see their priority's clearly, if you compare how much elderly and sick you can help with these funds.
The WTS is a company.
G.
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An old friend in another appearance: used-tools-equipment.com (Hudson Valley - WTS shell)
by Gorbatchov insince 1995 gorby likes to investigate the organizational behind the jehovah's witnesses, and is working now on a publication about it.
i will keep you updated about that.
now, in the memorial week, i found a new watchtower trade brand under the wings of kingdom support service, inc. and it's name is hudson valley.
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Since 1995 Gorby likes to investigate the organizational behind the Jehovah's Witnesses, and is working now on a publication about it. I will keep you updated about that.
Now, in the memorial week, I found a new Watchtower trade Brand under the wings of Kingdom Support Service, Inc. and it's name is Hudson Valley. That's not strange. They openly use the Brand on their new website, selling all their building equipment used at Warwick.
Visit this site at: http://used-tools-equipment.com
Take a look at the 50.000 parts of equipment, an enormous stock.
We can compare this brand with the Circuit lease and later on Circuit Vehicles brand.
Visit this site at: http://www.circuitvehicles.com/home/ -
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WTS trade with China in an earlier stage.
by Gorbatchov inwith the recent thread about wts buying materials for their new warwick hq in china, i want to refer to another story some 10 years ago.. there was then a china government visit to the usa.
they paid a visit to wts in brooklyn and did in the aftermath a return visit to china for the sake of lean production management.. wts learned the china government producing lean, and they got something in return for that.. what they got, i don't know.
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Thanks Backinthebox, I will search this. Great info. Gorby -
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WTS trade with China in an earlier stage.
by Gorbatchov inwith the recent thread about wts buying materials for their new warwick hq in china, i want to refer to another story some 10 years ago.. there was then a china government visit to the usa.
they paid a visit to wts in brooklyn and did in the aftermath a return visit to china for the sake of lean production management.. wts learned the china government producing lean, and they got something in return for that.. what they got, i don't know.
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With the recent thread about WTS buying materials for their new Warwick HQ in China, I want to refer to another story some 10 years ago.
There was then a China government visit to the USA. They paid a visit to WTS in Brooklyn and did in the aftermath a return visit to China for the sake of Lean production management.
WTS learned the China government producing Lean, and they got something in return for that.
What they got, I don't know.
G.
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Need confirmation: WT bought an entire mountain in China to mine the granite needed for new WT HQ
by WingCommander insomeone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
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I think the WTS would do business with the Devil himself, if there was a good business deal to make.
Because, that's the way I look to American management. IBM gave Hitler the administration machines to index the jews.
I will start a new thread soon about it. Heard something else.
G.