Are you kidding me? This article had to have been written by someone who has never been inside a Kingdom Hall. It is FULL of lies. Please! I'm with zolks. It MUST be a joke.
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it's so full of slimy lies.. the argument that jehovah's witnesses are not cult members .
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Are you kidding me? This article had to have been written by someone who has never been inside a Kingdom Hall. It is FULL of lies. Please! I'm with zolks. It MUST be a joke.
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it would be nice to see who is online with jwn at one time...
I'm on! L4P
an open letter to jehovahs witnesses.
you may not remember, but i know you very well.
i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.
So painfully true, down to the last detail. I am so sorry that you have had this experience, losing all family along the way. Your letter is extremely thought provoking and as chickpea said, "chilling in its accuracy." Thank you so much for sharing it. No doubt it will touch many.
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i do not have many teachers that i admire.
(with the exception of a female eighth grade level english/history teacher, but that's another story).
no, today i'm talking of a different exception.
T.I.T.S.,
:o) I'd love to hear the gist of your solution to the world's problems, but it would probably be over my head, being that it came from a meeting of the minds between you and your biology and art teachers. No doubt the conversation was deep and intriguing. When I seek to solve the world's problems, it's usually more about the relationship of trust with the person I am with, than it is about the solutions we come up with, in and of themselves. Being able to open up and have a mutual exchange regarding things you are equally impassioned about is invaluable. I am so happy that you found that experience recently...especially among teaching professionals.
All the best to you,
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this or something like it, will be the preface:.
in 1973, the year i graduated from college, i joined what sociologists now call a high control religion, what others would call a cult.
sixteen years later, my wife and i mailed a letter to the groups headquarters formally ending our relationship with them.
It sounds like an excellent format to raise awareness. I wish you the utmost success. I will be watching for it. Do you have a title for it yet?
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talked to my dear cousin today (she's a jw).
her hubby (nonjw) and brother (jw) just got her on facebook.
she knows i'm on facebook and wants to add me on her friends list.
Warning! I had certain privacy settings all set up on facebook and then "poof!" one day certain options disappeared with a new and improved facebook and until I realized the changes impacted my settings, things were open to people that I did not want open to them at all, so I would never count on privacy settings to be secure. Facebook updates and changes constantly, all of a sudden making certain settings you are accustomed to obsolete and leaving you wide open. So if you are not willing to face the risks involved with friends of friends possibly seeing something that could be damaging to you, do not friend anyone that might expose you to risk.
Additionally, there are people I have "unfriended" whose comments are still visible to me when they comment on a mutual friend's page, so I feel pretty sure that they occasionally see my comments on posts of friends we have in common's pages, so there is no sure fire guarantee that your use of facebook will remain hidden completely to those you've blocked. Your page may be hidden, but they may still occasionally see signs that you still use facebook through mutual friends' pages and posts. I have learned it is not fool proof, even when I have gone to great lengths to put friends all into groups and place different privacy settings on each group. Anything out there in cyberspace is open to exposure, for sure, so make your decision with full awareness of that fact.
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does the image convey the experience?
i want to put it on a t-shrit.
only if it works... .
That image packs a painful punch. It's definitely effective at making a point. I'm not sure I'd want to wear it on a t-shirt and have to explain it to people in very many settings. Sobering.
i was having an affair with a pioneer at the time and a girl who was disfellowshipped was in the loo at the hall (she actually had not done aything scriptually wrong (but the elders thought she had ) i tried to smile at her as i felt i was not in a position to judge anyone as guilt was destroying me but she just looked down at the floor , 14 years later we are good friends and both "free".
when you were "in" and ignored disfellowshipped did you ever think "im not in a position to judge anyone " ?.
My mom was not a witness and would always try to arrange gatherings where I would be with my disfellowshipped brother. I was a new witness myself and wanted so much to do the right thing, but I could never reconcile my feelings. On the one hand, I felt so guilty being judgmental of my brother and on the other hand, I felt so guilty being disloyal to the borg. I ended up being disloyal to both. I couldn't fully show love to my brother the way my mom wanted me to and I never felt like I lived up to what the borg wanted of me. Now that I have no desire to please the borg, I have many regrets over the way I treated my brother all those years. I feel guilt and shame and sadness over it. I lost all the way around. My mom died before I saw the light, so I could never thank her for what she tried to do or apologize for being an ass. I do, however, love my brother and have worked to restore my relationship with him. There is no doubt, though, that what was lost is lost. I hate that very much.
In many ways, I am still L4P.
Besides all that was already mentioned, I could not believe he denied toward the end that there is an organization manual!!! Besides the custody materials that we all know the society has made all congregation members aware of by way of letters read to the congregation from Brooklyn, all baptized members receive the OM book. So many things in this video were blatantly inaccurate, from an application perspective and every witness knows it. Disfellowshipping is not only a congregation matter. It very much impacts the family unit. GRRRRRR.....
(romans 12:4-8; 1 corinthians 12:12-28; ephesians 4:15, 16; colossians 2:19).
8:34,35.. comments.
4:15.. comments.
Thanks, Blondie! I look forward to my study (expose') of the Watchtower like never before, through your eyes. :o)
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