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  Memorial Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT "Witness" to Family and Friends

  by AMNESIANO in

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  anyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.

  by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".

  nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.

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  Great OP - absolutely spot-on.
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  My 45 Minute Conversation With JWs Today

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i was saying before the watchtower literature trolley has arrived in my little town.... my wife and i were in town this afternoon and i saw one of my former elder colleagues standing beside the trolley talking to a young man and reading to him from one of their books.

  ray was one my least favourite people - he was everything that is bad about jw elders.

  i went up to them and interrupted and told the man that this is a cult recruitment campaign.

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  cantleave

  So the monkey-evolution discussion to prove how scientific you are, makes you feel good, but does nothing to help those men get free from the cult.

  I wish someone had debated this with me when I was on Field Service, it may have led to me waking up earlier than I did.
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  CONSOLIDATION REQUEST: Branch Closings

  by Black Man in

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  2. friends

  hey all - i was wondering if we can use this thread as an ongoing one to detail branch closings of the last 5 years or so and any moving forward?

  i had a discussion with some members of my family, who are still dyed in the wool jws, and they didn't believe me about numerous branch closures in recent years.

  i was trying to look up some threads that talked about it here (on my phone), but couldn't find a thread quickly.. thanks in advance!.

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  Does not this increase bring joy to our hearts brothers?
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  Anyone Here Used to Fear Persecution?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  i was thinking today about how i no longer have to fear the attack of satan against the jws.

  i used to fear being rounded up and beaten by mobs.

  seeing my family tortured.

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  cantleave

  As a kid I was told to expect persecution. I did, but only because I was considered batshit crazy because of the religious cult I was being brought up in.
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  Looking for BOE letter regarding DF'd at memorial

  by Dutchdelight in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last year i decided to attend the memorial.

  i came in last minute and ended up sitting at the end of the row.

  when the symbols were passed out they skipped me and gave to the person next to me.

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  cantleave

  What is scriptural basis for anything this cult does?

  Why bother going?
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  BLOOD MOON and

  by NAVYTOWN in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had anyone heard any jws talk about the fact that a blood moon lunar eclipse is going to happen on the night of the memorial?

  i can't imagine that at least some witnesses aren't saying this event is a biblical 'sign' that amageddon is getting very close.

  there will be four blood moons between now and fall 2015.....a very rare celestial happening.

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  cantleave

  It is not a "very rare celestial happening", lunar eclipses are common they happen everytime when the Moon passes directly behind the Earth. There is nothing significant about them.
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  Facebook Site

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ran across a facebook site entitled "ask a jehovah's witness anything.".

  it seems to be run by jw elders for jws and studies who are seeking information about "the truth.".

  they don't want apostates there or wt bashing.. i wonder if some people here would like to go to that site and ask questions.. of course, it would be easy to say stuff there that would get you banned.. i think the challenge would be to be respectful and see how long they will tolerate genuine questions.. i don't know how much follow-up they will allow.. of course, if you're fading, that's not a place to post.. .

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  Most of the members are apostates
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  "And yet it moves !"

  by Phizzy in

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  galileo is said to have uttered, or probably muttered these words in front of the inquisition after supposedly having reacanted his teaching that the solar system is heliocentric, as his predecessors kepler and copernicus had worked out.

  (and a guy in 3rd century b.c greece !).

  why was galileo unable to go back to his belief held by him in his youth, and nearly all people in christendom, that the earth was at the centre of the solar system and all the planets revolved around it ?.

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  cantleave

  Do you think it is "willful" when people have no access to other sources of information?

  Not at all. But when people deny things like evolution when the facts are freely available to them are indeed being willfully ignorant.
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  Any new partakers this year???

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  i just wondered if anyone was going to partake this year?

  when i learned ttatt, it became obvious that the wtbts was not god's organization.

  it became obvious that if the bible was true, the wtbts's teaching on the "anointed" were false.

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  cantleave

  I have been partaking all year.
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  "And yet it moves !"

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  galileo is said to have uttered, or probably muttered these words in front of the inquisition after supposedly having reacanted his teaching that the solar system is heliocentric, as his predecessors kepler and copernicus had worked out.

  (and a guy in 3rd century b.c greece !).

  why was galileo unable to go back to his belief held by him in his youth, and nearly all people in christendom, that the earth was at the centre of the solar system and all the planets revolved around it ?.

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  cantleave

  Yet many still deliberately dismiss facts and live in willful ignorance.