we were taught you are just unconscience in a grave "hell".
no burning fires or wonderful heaven where all our dreams come true.
i never feel like i am going to heaven.
Very meaningless. So much crap....NO REWARD. That pisses me off.... Does that make you angry cantleave?
What makes me angry is I lived so much of my life trying to earn an reward. Now that I know this is my one opportunity at living a life I am going to make it more ,meaningful. I am going to experience as much as I can and also contribute what I can to causes that deserve it.
i can imagine the covo over the tea and biscuits after the ministy, " did you hear about sister highdose?"...
" shes gone apostate!"...
" not surprised... she always looked the type you know!
Highdose, Hold your head up high because you know their deliverance isn't geeting near.
Attention span of a Gnat and a propensity towards indolence.
we were taught you are just unconscience in a grave "hell".
no burning fires or wonderful heaven where all our dreams come true.
i never feel like i am going to heaven.
Nothing, I do not believe in an after life. Our bodies decompose and that's it.
hey folks i made this set of videos i am especially proud of.
someone challenged me saying that i couldn't prove anything using the bible as evidence.
i said i could prove anything even that satan is the good guy and jehovah is the bad guy.
Another excellent, well thought out argument. I really appreciate the work you put into your videos, they were the very first antiJW stuff I found on the internet and they helped me to realise that I was living a lie. Thank you.
background to the conversation:.
i called my parents excited to be having them come out for thanksgiving break.
in the conversation my dad (not a jw) brought up that michael jackson's glove just sold for $300,000 while a recently found first edition copy of darwin's on the origin of species sold for only $100,000.
Weldone Kudra - stick to your guns.
this question is specifically to ex elders or anyone with some insight to my question.. i read in the flock book (which i downloaded of the internet recently .
take the initiative to help anyone in the congregation who has taken some false step: do your best to readjust him (gal 6:1).
it then mentions the following: .
The whole organisational culture revolves around labelling and judging others, som inevitably someone who becomes irregular and meetings or FS is given a label.
As an Elder it was my responsibility to look at the attendance and field service hours put in by members of my group. I would try to encourage individuals to do more by inviting them to work with me or my wife or getting them involved with some sort of social activity. If there was no response I knew that if I didn't raise it with the other Elders, some smart alec would highlight that there was a spritually weak person in my group and it would appear that I wasn't doing a great deal to help them. This would result in me bring proactive and pre-emptive by saying "Bro. Weak hasn't responded to my help, doesn't want shepherding calls and would appear to have something of a rebellious spirit".
This would generate a lot of discussion and some strategies to help the brother and would mean that I no longer had full responsibility. The strategies rarely worked (usually because no one had the time to follow them through), and the most that happened was asking Brother weak to retrospectively give some FS hour before the CO vivit so he wasn't counted as inactive.
obviously the wt is a best a man made organisation and publishing company.
at worst it is far darker.. anyhow, i understand why an exjw would be cautious to join another organisation.. however, god does have one and it is called the church.. .
matthew 16:18 (new international version)18and i tell you that you are peter, and on this rock i will build my church, and the gates of hades will not overcome it.. it is not a denomination or even a religion, it is just the collective of all born again believers who have come to jesus and are build on his foundation.. 1 peter 2:4-5 (new international version) 4as you come to him, the living stonerejected by men but chosen by god and precious to him 5you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to god through jesus christ.. ephesians 2:19-22 (new international version) .
The question is Which Church?
IMO and based on the churches in my area, Catholic - no way, pope i equivalent to JW's GB. Protestant - too wishy washy, methodist - too happy clappy.
So my new church is JWN - suits me perfectly .
It wasn't a birthday it was an anniversary!
is there anything that might distinguish a jw in a crowd?.
a certain way of dressing?
mannerisms?
Yeah, they are ones working the gas pumps and cleaning your windows, wearing smart clothes and smile inanely.
